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sunrisegirl Apr 18, 2008 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 9597052)
Origin and Destination.

Thanks - it's so obvious when you know the answer ;)

spanishflea Apr 18, 2008 3:59 pm

It would seem that Calgary is losing its 777 to fulfil the last link in the aircraft shuffle equation.

MAN-JFK axed, its 767 moves to LHR to operate LHR-YYC
LHR-YYC downgraded from 777 to 767 to provide 777 to LGW-JFK
LGW-JFK started using YYC 777 from LHR

Ta Da... :p

The _Banking_Scot Apr 18, 2008 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by BOH (Post 9596909)
Oh, I'm well aware that BA had DC10's and posted only a few weeks ago of a flight I took on one of these to DFW in the 90's

See post #39 in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ht=dc10&page=3

The implication I read from N830MH was that DC10 is the current equipment used, hence the :confused::confused: from me

Hi BOH,

Ooops! Sorry about that.

Regards

TBS

NonSmokingWindow Apr 18, 2008 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot (Post 9596004)
Hi BOH,

Following the takeover of British Caledonian ( BCal) by BA in the 1980's the DC10s operated by BCal were used by BA ( inc PHX /LAX and New York ) before being retired

Regards

TBS

PS Lots of BA DC10 photos here;
http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...ne_version=6.0


Back in the day, JFK was the only airport in the BA network that saw all the airline's longhaul equipment types.
DC-10, 767, 747, 757, SSC

Dan72 Apr 18, 2008 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by NonSmokingWindow (Post 9598312)
Back in the day, JFK was the only airport in the BA network that saw all the airline's longhaul equipment types.
DC-10, 767, 747, 757, SSC

Did it get the TriStars too?

flyboy777 Apr 19, 2008 3:53 am


Originally Posted by spanishflea (Post 9597163)
It would seem that Calgary is losing its 777 to fulfil the last link in the aircraft shuffle equation.

MAN-JFK axed, its 767 moves to LHR to operate LHR-YYC
LHR-YYC downgraded from 777 to 767 to provide 777 to LGW-JFK
LGW-JFK started using YYC 777 from LHR

Ta Da... :p

I heard Calgary was doing well & upgraded to daily service! I bet the Canadians have had enough B767 to last them a lifetime aswell! What makes you think YYC loses the big twin?

Dan72 Apr 19, 2008 4:34 am


Originally Posted by flyboy777 (Post 9598931)
I heard Calgary was doing well & upgraded to daily service! I bet the Canadians have had enough B767 to last them a lifetime aswell! What makes you think YYC loses the big twin?

I don't think that's the logic. If they are wanting to base an aircraft at LGW it really has to be a 777. It would be too costly to run just one 767 from LGW. So once they decided they wanted a JFK out of LGW, they would look at the 777 routes at LHR and decide where they can make the switch with the least loss in revenue. Given it's a new route, it's not surprising that YYC was one of the routes considered.

Swanhunter Apr 19, 2008 4:36 am

For those travelling J, the 767 could be considered an upgrade over the 777. W too.

Prospero Apr 19, 2008 4:52 am

BA announced that the LGW-JFK will be a 4 class service.

Also worthy of note, LHR-YYC presently goes out as 3 class for large chucks of the week, so it is doubtful the transition from 777 to 767 will cause any great hardship - to echo Swanhunter, J/W pax will likely gain from this adjustment.

sunrisegirl Apr 19, 2008 5:28 am


Originally Posted by Prospero (Post 9599045)
BA announced that the LGW-JFK will be a 4 class service.

Oooh, I've always wanted to prod a Mod! :D

Prospero Apr 19, 2008 7:09 am


Originally Posted by sunrisegirl (Post 9599103)
Oooh, I've always wanted to prod a Mod! :D

Eeeek! that tickled :D ;)

I know, I thought it worth reiterating the point in view of the 767 versus 777 discussion upstream.

flyclub Apr 19, 2008 7:23 am

Surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that it would appear the LGW-JFK flight will be the old NCW product probably for the same money as if on a 747 guaranteed to have the new seats.

Unless it will be one of the first 777's with the new seats however it was my understanding that the roll out of these is very gradual this year.:confused:

flyboy777 Apr 19, 2008 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by Dan72 (Post 9599014)
I don't think that's the logic. If they are wanting to base an aircraft at LGW it really has to be a 777. It would be too costly to run just one 767 from LGW. So once they decided they wanted a JFK out of LGW, they would look at the 777 routes at LHR and decide where they can make the switch with the least loss in revenue. Given it's a new route, it's not surprising that YYC was one of the routes considered.

My issue isn't so much with aircraft type more with the route. Why Calgary?


Originally Posted by flyclub (Post 9599367)
Surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that it would appear the LGW-JFK flight will be the old NCW product probably for the same money as if on a 747 guaranteed to have the new seats.

Unless it will be one of the first 777's with the new seats however it was my understanding that the roll out of these is very gradual this year.:confused:

I wonder if this particular B777 will be NCW upgraded or they could get into trouble for saying that it's on all London - JFK flights:eek:

ian001 Apr 19, 2008 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by flyboy777 (Post 9600355)
My issue isn't so much with aircraft type more with the route. Why Calgary?

Well, I have wondered whether YUL would be downgraded from a 777 to 767, or even dropped. Flights can be full, but it is reported to be one of the lowest-yielding North American routes.


Originally Posted by flyboy777 (Post 9600355)
I wonder if this particular B777 will be NCW upgraded or they could get into trouble for saying that it's on all London - JFK flights:eek:

All BA needs to do is say is "excluding BA***" as it already has done in respect of the 777 operated flight to JFK from LHR.

spanishflea Apr 19, 2008 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by flyboy777 (Post 9598931)
What makes you think YYC loses the big twin?

It is in the timetables for the winter schedule now.


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