BAA Strike action ??
Nov 23, 2007, 7:41 am
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BAA Strike action ??
Nov 23, 2007, 7:57 am
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Why could they strike for a final-salary scheme? Everyone knows that this is not a safe pension and a practice that has rightly been stopped years ago in most companies.
Nov 23, 2007, 8:27 am
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Makes me so mad
It's one thing to change the goal posts on people who are already in a scheme but it's another thing to strike because something once available to others is not available to you. That should be illegal.
Where will they stop? My gym (I'm on an old contract gives me a towel for free), if new members join they have to pay for one. Perhaps they should strike too!
It's one thing to change the goal posts on people who are already in a scheme but it's another thing to strike because something once available to others is not available to you. That should be illegal.
Where will they stop? My gym (I'm on an old contract gives me a towel for free), if new members join they have to pay for one. Perhaps they should strike too!
Nov 23, 2007, 8:35 am
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And indeed, final value salary schemes have been abolished (or at least closed for new entrants) by just about every company in the country.
Nov 23, 2007, 8:49 am
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I suspect these dates are wild speculation and they could strike almost any time after the ballot has taken place. However, looking on the bright side...
I am due to fly to Brazil on December 26th. Looks like I could be stranded there for months.
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A strike could see BAA airports closed from 27 December, leading to chaos during the New Year travel period.
I am due to fly to Brazil on December 26th. Looks like I could be stranded there for months.
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Nov 23, 2007, 9:16 am
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Without getting into the discussion of the merit of that particular strike, it is quite properly the role of a trade union to defend the terms of employment of present and future employees.
Nov 23, 2007, 9:43 am
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Nov 23, 2007, 9:52 am
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Might be being cynical, but if there is a holiday isn't there always a threat of strike action?
If the strike action happens, then lots of airmiles get given away, which is good for those that are affected, although it makes redemptions more difficult for a while for everyone.
Also on the good side, BAA gets more bad publicity which will mean that its virtual monopoly will be even more likely to be removed.
If the strike action happens, then lots of airmiles get given away, which is good for those that are affected, although it makes redemptions more difficult for a while for everyone.
Also on the good side, BAA gets more bad publicity which will mean that its virtual monopoly will be even more likely to be removed.
Nov 23, 2007, 9:52 am
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Nov 23, 2007, 10:29 am
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Exactly - it wouldn't be BA's fault - and we will do all we can to re-accomodate pax, however I can imagine there would be thousands of claims under EU REGS for canx flights (which of course would be rejected due to the nature of the cancellation) but you can bet BA would get negative press coverage - eg MASS CANCELLATIONS AT BA CAUSES HAVOC, etc etc....
Nov 23, 2007, 10:30 am
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At least this time I'm not also trying to co-ordinate with a boyfriend on a different PNR (actually on two different PNRs) flying in from MAD first.
Last time I got a bunch of extra miles and TPs ^. But frankly, I would have rather not had the stress, which was very considerable for the reasons above, particularly as bf had gone to great lengths to make arrangements for the smooth running of his business while he was away. As always with these things, it is extremely stressful and worrying for some travellers, almost a matter of indifference and simple re-scheduling for others, with a great number somewhere in between.
Nov 23, 2007, 10:32 am
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strike and re route?
My question is the same as above. I'm scheduled to go FCO LHR PHX Dec 20 and back 3 Jan (possibly within strike dates?). Does BA normally re route/re ticket automatically? Or will I not know if I'm going home for Christmas until I get to the airport?
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Nov 23, 2007, 10:50 am
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But where do you draw the line? A potential future employee has the ability to review the terms and conditions of employment and perks (?) of a job before you sign the contract. You don't like what you see... you job hunt elsewhere.... you can't find what you want anywhere.... perhaps it's time to re-set your expectations.
The very basis of the right to strike (or any other form of collective labour action for that matter) is that freedom of contract does not reflect the imbalance in bargaining power between employee and employer. We could, of course, take the line that you suggest, consider that freedom of contract is all we need. In fact, that is exactly what we had in the 19th century when collective labout action was regarded as an unlawful restraint of trade. While unions can sometimes be irritating and do not always act responsibly (but then neither do employers), I am not sure that a return to the 19th century would constitute a desirable solution.
