Rumour: NGCW Issues with the 777 and AVOD Problems
Jul 11, 2007, 3:33 am
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Rumour: NGCW Issues with the 777 and AVOD Problems
Just heard from a friend, that apparently BA are having several problems with getting NGCW into the 777's. The first problem is that it won't actually fit as it's too wide. Also, the floors haven't been appropriately stressed, so they will each need to go back to Boeing to be reinforced.
The other problem relate to the new AVOD system on the 744's. BA ordered the system with two servers, rather than the recommnded three. This means there is apparently a hard limit of 60 people watching one film at a time.
Lastly, from the winter season, the BA 009/10 is scheduled to be downgraded from a 744 to a 772. This isn't reflected on the online timetable on BA.com yet.
The other problem relate to the new AVOD system on the 744's. BA ordered the system with two servers, rather than the recommnded three. This means there is apparently a hard limit of 60 people watching one film at a time.
Lastly, from the winter season, the BA 009/10 is scheduled to be downgraded from a 744 to a 772. This isn't reflected on the online timetable on BA.com yet.
Jul 11, 2007, 3:35 am
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Jul 11, 2007, 3:44 am
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If this is true, then it demonstrates incompetence of perhaps mesmerising proportions.
The news about BA9/10 is hardly surprising. I would anticipate annoucement of a separate LHR-BKK service on 744. Then SIN-SYD and BKK-SYD will be ready for the chop, probably around this time next year.
The news about BA9/10 is hardly surprising. I would anticipate annoucement of a separate LHR-BKK service on 744. Then SIN-SYD and BKK-SYD will be ready for the chop, probably around this time next year.
Jul 11, 2007, 3:48 am
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It would not surprise me if there ARE issues getting the NNCW to fit in a 777 as the fuselage chord is almost, but not quite, as wide as a 747..... which is why MOST operators only squeeze 9 across in Y (Yes, I know, BA did have hi- density 777's at Gatwick and Emirates operate with Ten across... but it's tight!!
Let's also not also forget the problems with the seating between W and Y on the THREE class 777 where engineering were given a seating plan which didn't work for the crew as they bashed pax (including me!!) with the trolley as they moved from W to the first row in Y... leading to the removal of the two aisle seats!!!
Theory is fine, but the working reality???
Let's also not also forget the problems with the seating between W and Y on the THREE class 777 where engineering were given a seating plan which didn't work for the crew as they bashed pax (including me!!) with the trolley as they moved from W to the first row in Y... leading to the removal of the two aisle seats!!!
Theory is fine, but the working reality???
Jul 11, 2007, 3:49 am
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Let me get this straight. They ordered 2 servers instead of 3 and now the system crashes almost every flight. And they didn't even bother measuring whether the new product fitted 43 out of their 100 long haul aircraft?
I actually can't believe this is true. I'm not casting doubt on Dave_C's contacts, which have proved accurate in the past, but I cannot bring myself to believe that management stupidity of such staggering proportions actually occurs in real life.
Oh, wait a minute, this is BA we're talking about....
I actually can't believe this is true. I'm not casting doubt on Dave_C's contacts, which have proved accurate in the past, but I cannot bring myself to believe that management stupidity of such staggering proportions actually occurs in real life.
Oh, wait a minute, this is BA we're talking about....
Jul 11, 2007, 3:57 am
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Just heard from a friend, that apparently BA are having several problems with getting NGCW into the 777's. The first problem is that it won't actually fit as it's too wide. Also, the floors haven't been appropriately stressed, so they will each need to go back to Boeing to be reinforced.
Hence why they feel a bit flimsy in places....
I'm sure there was a mention of this in a statement from BA or from a posting.
Jul 11, 2007, 5:00 am
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Just heard from a friend, that apparently BA are having several problems with getting NGCW into the 777's. The first problem is that it won't actually fit as it's too wide. Also, the floors haven't been appropriately stressed, so they will each need to go back to Boeing to be reinforced.
Jul 11, 2007, 5:33 am
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If this is GalleyFM it sounds suspiciously like the story doing the rounds in 1996 about the F seats not fitting through the doors of the 777 when they tried to install them...
Jul 11, 2007, 5:51 am
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Not necessarily related - if it's a gash system then having three servers instead of two may make things worse if anything. If the problems we've all seen are load-related then of course this could make the situation worse.
Jul 11, 2007, 6:43 am
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Just heard from a friend, that apparently BA are having several problems with getting NGCW into the 777's. The first problem is that it won't actually fit as it's too wide. Also, the floors haven't been appropriately stressed, so they will each need to go back to Boeing to be reinforced.
The other problem relate to the new AVOD system on the 744's. BA ordered the system with two servers, rather than the recommnded three. This means there is apparently a hard limit of 60 people watching one film at a time.
Lastly, from the winter season, the BA 009/10 is scheduled to be downgraded from a 744 to a 772. This isn't reflected on the online timetable on BA.com yet.
The other problem relate to the new AVOD system on the 744's. BA ordered the system with two servers, rather than the recommnded three. This means there is apparently a hard limit of 60 people watching one film at a time.
Lastly, from the winter season, the BA 009/10 is scheduled to be downgraded from a 744 to a 772. This isn't reflected on the online timetable on BA.com yet.
Whilst I'm sure these rumours could be possible, the fact is the 'source' gleaned the info over a pint in a pub downroute. Isn't this where most chinese whispers start?
Jul 11, 2007, 7:28 am
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No more premium economy service Oz to Asia if that happens, until QF launches its own WHY+ cabin.
Jul 11, 2007, 8:05 am
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Short term cost-cutting often leads to long term expenses....