Guests in First
#16
Join Date: May 2007
Location: London WC2/W1
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Travelling to Brazil earlier this year, I was in J (paying, not op-upped). My boyfriend was in Y. (Can we please not go into how this came about?) The crew were quite clear that he could not visit me in J even for a short while (the seat next to me was vacant, as were lots of other J seats) but that I could visit him in Y (which was full so this wasn't very practical.)
#17
Join Date: Jan 2006
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F only. The J footstool isn't strong enough to sit on, especially NCW 2.0, it appears, to start with.
On a trip back from BOS last year, though, the guy in the same row as me in Y had his missus in J - he disappeared for a 'visit', never to be seen again. This was the day flight, so it wasn't full. Also on this flight, a guy sitting at 26F next to a mum, child & infant offered to move somewhere else so the family could have more room - and the crew accepted his kind offer and put him in W!
On a trip back from BOS last year, though, the guy in the same row as me in Y had his missus in J - he disappeared for a 'visit', never to be seen again. This was the day flight, so it wasn't full. Also on this flight, a guy sitting at 26F next to a mum, child & infant offered to move somewhere else so the family could have more room - and the crew accepted his kind offer and put him in W!
#18
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It applies to F only as there is the Buddy Seat in your seat. With J, no visitors applies even more so on the UD for security reasons.
Edit: 2-1 to you, Teece, 2-1
Edit: 2-1 to you, Teece, 2-1
#19
Join Date: Feb 2006
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#20
Join Date: May 2003
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I have been in J on the UD with Mrs. Greg66 in F downstairs. I tried to visit here - and was refused entry to the F cabin altogether. Twenty minutes later she appeared upstairs to visit me.
I suspect that there is a degree of elasticity in the application of the rules surrounding this, which depends on the cabin crew on the particular flight.
#21
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I am sure someone can quote the exact chapter and verse on FIRST Service Standards which confirms it's absolutely the case they are allowed a visitor to the buddy seat. Though I think the crew may be pragmatic and suggest deferring it during the meal service/busy times perhaps. On the UD issue, I think some crews are more flexible than others, definitely - I've seen visitors both come up and be denied (where the crew suggested the UD person go downstairs to see the visitor instead).
#22
Join Date: May 2007
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Incidentally, nor do I see why visiting the upper deck is more of a security issue that visiting passengers in F on a 777.
Last edited by LeisureFirst; Jun 20, 2007 at 10:24 am
#23
Join Date: Jun 2007
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[QUOTE=Swiss Tony;7931421]No, if you get op-upped to J at check-in and attempt to access the lounge, you get sneered at by the dragons & firmly put in your place. They then set the starved dogs onto you before making you wear a T-shirt that says "I'm a freeloader"
.... or something like that.
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It's always worth a (polite) try. I have usually found the lounge dragons to be a tad less fearful if you are nice to them..............
.... or something like that.
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It's always worth a (polite) try. I have usually found the lounge dragons to be a tad less fearful if you are nice to them..............
#24
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I've been allowed into the lounge (Terraces) at BOS with a ticket I'd just been given, that now seated me slightly further forward on the plane. Never tried it at LHR because I've never been moved forward at LHR, however I have seen someone get rejected because of this at LHR and to be fair at the time the lounge was fairly full.
#25
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I've been allowed into the lounge (Terraces) at BOS with a ticket I'd just been given, that now seated me slightly further forward on the plane. Never tried it at LHR because I've never been moved forward at LHR, however I have seen someone get rejected because of this at LHR and to be fair at the time the lounge was fairly full.
#26
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: PHL
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So agreed, visitors in J are at crew discretion - and if you have a great crew so much easier to obtain.
#27
Join Date: Mar 2002
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And you didn't offer to swap seats with either your father or your mother (step?)... What a shocker... If ever I've been offered an UG and a senior member of the family is travelling, we swap... (in their favour)
#28
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: UK
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Ground benefits apply to the paid ticket - if you ask and get let in, it's luck not a right. I was denied lounge access on a Y->J OpUp as Bluescum way back when. In fact, quite often they will scrawl 'INVOL U/G' on your BP to make double sure. Though the last time I had that it was as a Silver from WT+ to J ex-LGW. Quite what they thought it would achieve given I was going to the Terraces and Terraces only regardless, I have no idea. Still, I don't care what they write on it as long as it's accompanied by a lower seat number
#29
Join Date: Jan 2007
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This September, I'm flying F PHX>LHR>DXB and back. My buddies are in the back of the bus - what do you think the odds are that we could champagne toast my 30th birthday up in F during the flight? It will actually be my birthday and we're celebrating by having my party in Dubai. I have no BA status, sadly! I hear they snicker at your Star Alliance cards in the UK!
#30
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: PHL
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Mine was a paid J, theirs a separate WT booking and they preferred to all sit together. I'm not that mean.