Club World Guide

Old Dec 7, 06, 11:04 am
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Introduction

Welcome to the latest iteration of the Club World Guide. BA's entire fleet of 747-436 and 777-236 are flying with the new cabin.



Current status
Complete. The embodiment programme to install new Club World business class seats and freshen up the cabin décor to BA's long haul fleet started in December 2006, initially with a refit to its fleet of 57 Boeing 747-436 aircraft. This step in the process was finally completed at the end of 2007 so if you are travelling long haul on BA in business class on a 747 operated flight, you are assured of the latest seat. BA's fleet of 747s fall into two straight-forward categories, based on the seat configuratons: High J (14F/70J/30W/185M) and Mid J (14F/52J/36W/235M). The latter replaced the now obsolete Low J 747-436 configuration.

BA confirmed in 2006 the new Club World seat shall not be fitted to its fleet of long haul 767-336 aircraft. The long haul 767s shall continue to fly with the first generation flat bed seats (NCW 1.3) until retirement comes. The Rockwell Collins (TES) inflight entertainment system has at least been upgraded and now supports AVOD capabilities throughout the fleet.

The refit of the current sub fleet of forty-two 777-236s was completed in April 2010. All aircraft received the new seat however there are be noticeable variations in the inflight entertainment offering. The oldest aircraft originally fitted with GEC Marconi's GMIS system did not receive AVOD capabilities but does feature larger 10.4' displays. Whilst the NCW seat does share a consistent look and feel, the older generation 12 channel GMIS system will plod on for the foreseeable future.

Those 777's currently fitted with the Rockwell Collins (TES) IFE system did receive full AVOD capabilities as per the 747-436 fleet. In addition, the delivery of four factory fresh 777-236 were brought into service with the NCW 2.0 seat and upgraded TES AVOD technology.

For more information on the configuration of individual 777-236 aircraft, please refer to the schedules outlined in the post immediately below. Further details on BA inflight entertainment are available in the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...at-expect.html thread.



How can I tell if my flight has the new seat?
The following section can now be regarded as historical data, since the entire 747/777 fleet has been refitted.

Whilst it would be wonderful if we could provide forward predictions on which flights the refitted aircraft will be operating on, this information is near on impossible to obtain. As mentioned above, if you are travelling in business class on a 747-436 or LGW based 4 class 777-236, you are guaranteed the latest seat. There are a number of online databases which allow us to track current and past movements of specific aircraft. However these have limited value in predicting where specific aircraft are headed to next. So please, be mindful of this before asking the question

Thanks to the great work undertaken by Irish Lad, who has compiled a comprehensive monthly summary, this gives us a chance to view each long haul route and glance at the monthly statistics. So if you are wondering if your forthcoming flight will be fitted with the latest CW cabin, this provides you with a probability rating.

September 2008
October 2008
November 2008
December 2008
January 2009
February 2009
March 2009
April 2009
May 2009
June 2009
July 2009
August 2009
September 2009
October 2009
November 2009
December 2009
January 2010
February 2010
March 2010

For your reference, the following online database tools are used as part of Irish Lad's mammoth data crunching exercise:
ACARS Database Search tool
Heathrow & Gatwick Airport Movements



Extra legroom seats in Club World guides
Boeing 747-400
Boeing 777-200



Historical summary of BA's lie flat New Club World seat
BA first marketed its long haul business product as New Club World (NCW) when it unveiling a new ground braking flat bed product back in Summer 2000 when services between London and New York JFK were fully embodied with the new Club World. BA proudly marketed this as the 'Lounge in the Sky', the world's first fully flat bed in business class. The product underwent minor alterations during its lifetime, as follows:

Code:
NCW 1.0   The original fully flat bed in business class
NCW 1.1   With this minor iteration, the cream hard shell seat divider leaf pairs were replaced by dark navy fans
NCW 1.2   With this iteration, the seat/bed cushions were replaced with softer 
          cushions following customer feedback that many passengers found the 
          bed too hard.  This version is presently fitted inside Boeing 777 cabins.
NCW 1.3   Inflight entertainment system received a welcome update, featuring 
          popular audio and video on demand (AVOD).  This variant is unique to BA's long haul fleet of Boeing 767 aircraft.
NCW 2.0   The latest offering that marks a significant generational leap in the 
          evolution of the New Club World product.  You may also find this referred to on FlyerTalk as the Next Generation Club World (NGCW)



For more details on the NCW product and BA's seating policy, please follow the link [here]



All comments, questions and fresh information is very much appreciated. Please feel free to add to this guide.

Last edited by Prospero; Apr 17, 10 at 12:08 pm Reason: added link to March 2010 stats and introduction amended
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The 777-236 fleet

The following schedules provides a break down of BA's existing fleet of 777-236 aircraft. The schedules will be updated periodically as the NCW refit programme progresses. Those aircraft in service that are known to feature the new cabin are identified in red. Those known to be undergoing conversion are greyed out.

London Gatwick (LGW) Boeing 777 fleet
Code:
REG       TYPE        CONFIG              AVOD    NCW     IFE TECHNOLOGY            PLANNED REFIT READY DATE 
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
G-VIIA    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    22.04.09 
G-VIIC    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    13.04.09 
G-VIIO 	  777-236B    40J/24W/219M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       22.05.09  
G-VIIP 	  777-236B    40J/24W/219M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       01.05.09  
G-VIIR 	  777-236B    40J/24W/219M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       13.05.09
G-VIIT 	  777-236B    40J/24W/219M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       31.05.09
G-YMMF    777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       16.12.08


London Heathrow (LHR) Boeing 777 fleet
Code:
REG       TYPE        CONFIG              AVOD    NCW     IFE TECHNOLOGY            PLANNED REFIT READY DATE 
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
G-ZZZA    777-236A    17F/48J/24W/127M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    26.02.09 
G-ZZZB 	  777-236A    17F/48J/24W/127M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    16.02.09
G-ZZZC    777-236A    17F/48J/24W/127M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    08.03.09
G-VIIB    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    04.04.09 
G-VIID    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    23.12.08
G-VIIE    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    22.03.09 
G-VIIF    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    10.01.09
G-VIIG 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    03.02.09
G-VIIH 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    17.03.09 
G-RAES    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    04.09.08
G-VIIJ 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    26.01.09
G-VIIK 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    18.01.09
G-VIIL    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    11.02.09
G-VIIM    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    19.02.09
G-VIIN    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    27.02.09
G-VIIS 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    No      2.0     GMIS 12ch/10.4" screen    23.12.09
G-VIIU 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       18.09.08
G-VIIV 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       27.09.08
G-VIIW 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       13.09.08
G-VIIX    777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       08.10.08
G-VIIY 	  777-236B    14F/48J/40W/122M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       27.05.08
G-YMMA 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       28.01.10 
G-YMMB 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       12.12.09
G-YMMC 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       10.04.10 
G-YMMD 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       08.03.10 
G-YMME    777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       28.10.09
G-YMMG 	  777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       24.11.08
G-YMMH    777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       29.09.08
G-YMMI 	  777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       20.09.08
G-YMMJ    777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       28.10.08
G-YMMK 	  777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       18.01.09
G-YMML 	  777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       22.01.09
G-YMMN    777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       10.04.09 
G-YMMO    777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       23.05.09  
G-YMMP 	  777-236ER   13F/48J/32W/127M    Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       27.08.08
G-YMMR 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       entered service 02.06.09 
G-YMMS 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       entered service 02.08.09
G-YMMT 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       entered service 01.09.09
G-YMMU 	  777-236ER   48J/24W/203M        Yes     2.0     Upgraded TES (AVOD)       entered service 25.09.09


Future Deliveries
Code:
REG       TYPE        CONFIG              AVOD    NCW     IFE TECHNOLOGY
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
          777-336ER                       Yes     2.0     Thales (AVOD)             22.08.10
          777-336ER                       Yes     2.0     Thales (AVOD)             21.10.10
          777-336ER                       Yes     2.0     Thales (AVOD)             14.12.10
          777-336ER                       Yes     2.0     Thales (AVOD)             15.12.11
          777-336ER                       Yes     2.0     Thales (AVOD)             15.02.12
          777-336ER                       Yes     2.0     Thales (AVOD)             14.04.12

Note: Service entry dates indicative only and are subject to change

Last edited by Prospero; Apr 17, 10 at 12:10 pm Reason: update: G-YMMC returned to service, completing the embodiment programme
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Old Dec 7, 06, 11:34 am
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Has anyone actually travelled on this aircraft with the new cabin/seats fitted ?
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Originally Posted by eddy67 View Post
Has anyone actually travelled on this aircraft with the new cabin/seats fitted ?
I'm sure somebody has, but not necessarily anyone from FT

I'm sure the first regular on here who does will be shouting from the virtual rooftops.

Prospero, the anorak in me would love you to keep this up to date
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Originally Posted by Teece View Post
I'm sure somebody has, but not necessarily anyone from FT

I'm sure the first regular on here who does will be shouting from the virtual rooftops.

Prospero, the anorak in me would love you to keep this up to date
I can check where it is going and let the board know if you need to.
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Missed it by a day to HKG. Oh well, I'm getting to try SQ's new product next week so I can't complain.

It would be very useful to keep this updated both with history and the future. lhrworker, how far in advance would you be able to predict?
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Hi,

Thanks for offering to keep it updated Prospero and providing the information Lhrworker.

As more data is fed in ,would it be worthwhile making it a sticky so that we can refer posters to it?

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As an anorak who likes to keep my travel diary up to date, I use the invaluable LHR LGW movements site to tell which planes I've flown on.

Does anyone have a US equivalent site for any or all major airports over there. I have some annoying gaps in my diary I'd like to fill.
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Hmmm...SWMBO & I are off to HKG in March on WT+ ----> NCW MFU tickets.

I was hoping they might use the refitted aircraft on that route earlier than some others...one lives in hope!
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Heads up for those travelling JNB to LHR tonight. Report is that LN departed LHR last night as BA055
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ooops! missed it by 1 day!
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Originally Posted by lhrworker View Post
I can check where it is going and let the board know if you need to.
Thanks, that would be fantastic. The information gleaned from the H/G Movements site is great for tracking historic movements but is of limited use in predicting forthcoming operations. Having said that, yesterday's SBS log actually provides predictive info on tonight's turnaround (at JNB).
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Hey, guys am I flying in CW this week, please check for me if any of the flights are applicable.

British Airways BA 56 Wednesday, December 13, 2006
From Johannesburg / Johannesburg Int'l (JNB), Johannesburg South Africa 8:15 PM
Terminal: A
To London / Heathrow (LHR), London United Kingdom 5:15 AM
Terminal: 1 (Thursday)

Status Confirmed
Cabin Business
Aircraft Boeing 747-400
Flight duration 11:00
Mileage 5624 miles Disclaimer
Stop(s) 0
Meal Meal


Status: Confirmed

British Airways BA 117 Thursday, December 14, 2006
From London / Heathrow (LHR), London United Kingdom 8:20 AM
Terminal: 4
To New York / John F Kennedy Int'l (JFK), New York, New York USA 10:50 AM
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G-BNLN operated the BA5 on the 6th, returned 7th as the BA6, then out to Jo'Burg as the BA55 on the 7th, no sign of her return however.
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I never would have thought she would have come down to JNB at all.

What about my london- new york flight on the 14th? ANy chance of her then?
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