OT _ Gatwick MacDonalds - Warn Your Chauffeurs and Meeters and Greeters!
Dec 5, 2006, 6:28 am
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Presumably this is yet another cost of living in the UK which those with Lithuanian-registered cars manage to evade.
(like Congestion Charge, parking fines, road fund licence, insurance, MOT, etc).
(like Congestion Charge, parking fines, road fund licence, insurance, MOT, etc).
Dec 5, 2006, 6:41 am
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So we have a problem ... car services need somewhere to wait. Sounds valid.
Why doesn't someone f*****g fix the problem then?
Just a bit of concrete a few miles away ... you could charge an annual fee ... and provide live flight info and a coffee shop...
Hey, us customers might actually benefit?
Why doesn't someone f*****g fix the problem then?
Just a bit of concrete a few miles away ... you could charge an annual fee ... and provide live flight info and a coffee shop...
Hey, us customers might actually benefit?
Dec 5, 2006, 7:03 am
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Dec 5, 2006, 9:34 am
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For those who want to immerse themselves in the subject, there is another Forum you may want to peruse - those at http://www.pepipoo.com - the website that is "helping the motorist to get justice".
They have a very informative thread on the subject that concerns the BP garage at Gatwick....http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=14193
They have a very informative thread on the subject that concerns the BP garage at Gatwick....http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=14193
Dec 5, 2006, 12:57 pm
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I had an interesting case of this at University. In my first year students are not allowed to keep cars in halls of residence which was fine and I'd left it at home. One morning I found an envelope underneath my door. Was a s**togram from the University and final notice for the payment of a fine due for my car that was illegally parked on one of the roads around the halls. If payment wasn't made bailiffs would be sent round
Payment was due the following day, and the letter had been written about two weeks prior (good old University mail). The letter didn't have a phone number and so I mentioned this on the phone to my father when I called that evening. He wasn't best pleased 
Did some phoning around and it turned out the University (or someone they contract) found out this car was registered to someone with my surname. That was all they went on with this, not the fact my address was 100 miles away from the offending person with the same surname.
Knowledge = Power? God I hope not!
I had an interesting case of this at University. In my first year students are not allowed to keep cars in halls of residence which was fine and I'd left it at home. One morning I found an envelope underneath my door. Was a s**togram from the University and final notice for the payment of a fine due for my car that was illegally parked on one of the roads around the halls. If payment wasn't made bailiffs would be sent round
Payment was due the following day, and the letter had been written about two weeks prior (good old University mail). The letter didn't have a phone number and so I mentioned this on the phone to my father when I called that evening. He wasn't best pleased Did some phoning around and it turned out the University (or someone they contract) found out this car was registered to someone with my surname. That was all they went on with this, not the fact my address was 100 miles away from the offending person with the same surname.Knowledge = Power? God I hope not!
It turns out there was a match on name which then matched on license number. I never was able to convince police it wasn't me - they wanted proof it was someone else! If police can stuff up this way you can be sure private operators will be worse.
Dec 5, 2006, 1:35 pm
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Surely this is a trivial issue for the chauffeurs. If the max stay is 45 minutes, can't they just drive out of the car park and back in again?
I don't see an issue with McDonalds charging this; they are a fast food restaurant, not a free car park service; if they want to park, then they can happily use the car parks provided
Dave
I don't see an issue with McDonalds charging this; they are a fast food restaurant, not a free car park service; if they want to park, then they can happily use the car parks provided
Dave
Dec 5, 2006, 1:39 pm
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I had an interesting case of this at University. In my first year students are not allowed to keep cars in halls of residence which was fine and I'd left it at home. One morning I found an envelope underneath my door. Was a s**togram from the University and final notice for the payment of a fine due for my car that was illegally parked on one of the roads around the halls. If payment wasn't made bailiffs would be sent round Payment was due the following day, and the letter had been written about two weeks prior (good old University mail). The letter didn't have a phone number and so I mentioned this on the phone to my father when I called that evening. He wasn't best pleased Did some phoning around and it turned out the University (or someone they contract) found out this car was registered to someone with my surname. That was all they went on with this, not the fact my address was 100 miles away from the offending person with the same surname.
Knowledge = Power? God I hope not!
I had an interesting case of this at University. In my first year students are not allowed to keep cars in halls of residence which was fine and I'd left it at home. One morning I found an envelope underneath my door. Was a s**togram from the University and final notice for the payment of a fine due for my car that was illegally parked on one of the roads around the halls. If payment wasn't made bailiffs would be sent round
Payment was due the following day, and the letter had been written about two weeks prior (good old University mail). The letter didn't have a phone number and so I mentioned this on the phone to my father when I called that evening. He wasn't best pleased Did some phoning around and it turned out the University (or someone they contract) found out this car was registered to someone with my surname. That was all they went on with this, not the fact my address was 100 miles away from the offending person with the same surname.Knowledge = Power? God I hope not!
Parking was another matter and I'm just gratefull that I didn't have a car, as the parking was something else, although I think you registered your car so they could find you easily if needs be.
Originally Posted by SLF
Just a bit of concrete a few miles away ... you could charge an annual fee ... and provide live flight info and a coffee shop...
Hey, us customers might actually benefit?
Hey, us customers might actually benefit?
Dec 5, 2006, 1:42 pm
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Having only visited South Terminal to pick people up a handful of times, I must be honest I have popped in for a coffee in this McDonalds. This must have been a year or so ago and I was amazed how many people were asleep in their cars.
In fact I was amazed McDonalds had a car park for their restaurant. It must be a very prime piece of land being so close to the terminal. Amazed it has existed this long anyway.
In fact I was amazed McDonalds had a car park for their restaurant. It must be a very prime piece of land being so close to the terminal. Amazed it has existed this long anyway.
Dec 5, 2006, 2:28 pm
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PHX has a free waiting car park with a flight arrivals screen.
http://phoenix.gov/AVIATION/park_trans/stageandgo.html
Dec 5, 2006, 2:38 pm
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PHX has a free waiting car park with a flight arrivals screen.
http://phoenix.gov/AVIATION/park_trans/stageandgo.html
http://phoenix.gov/AVIATION/park_trans/stageandgo.html
. Why is it that I can't see BAA wanting to do this ...
Dec 5, 2006, 3:42 pm
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PHX has a free waiting car park with a flight arrivals screen.
http://phoenix.gov/AVIATION/park_trans/stageandgo.html
http://phoenix.gov/AVIATION/park_trans/stageandgo.html
Dec 5, 2006, 4:10 pm
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Interesting thread
That linked thread was a bit of a monster to get through, but interesting none the less.
What they forgot was that of course BAA are behind some of it, in that BP lease the ground from them in the first place and do not want people to drop in for free anyway. After all, there is an excess of short term parking at North Terminal now anyway, well for those that leave their cars at home in Crawley and take the train/bus (where's my bloody bike!) anyway.
They also missed the ethical trading element and writing to the company auditors to inform them of the trading with extortionists.
Strange though, I always wondered what happened to the now "Judge" from the Sunday Mirror. The things you find out from OT on the BA forum with FT!
What they forgot was that of course BAA are behind some of it, in that BP lease the ground from them in the first place and do not want people to drop in for free anyway. After all, there is an excess of short term parking at North Terminal now anyway, well for those that leave their cars at home in Crawley and take the train/bus (where's my bloody bike!) anyway.
They also missed the ethical trading element and writing to the company auditors to inform them of the trading with extortionists.
Strange though, I always wondered what happened to the now "Judge" from the Sunday Mirror. The things you find out from OT on the BA forum with FT!
Dec 5, 2006, 4:16 pm
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But what they have not considered is that the registered keeper may not have been the driver at the time. Only the driver at the time is liable to potential civil liability. You need legislation to displace that liability onto the registered keeper or to provide a mechanism whereby the registered keeper is obliged to provide the details of the driver at the time of the offence.
So, if you get a note in the post from McGonads claiming a "civil penalty" (there is no such thing), then if you were not the driver at the time (or cannot remember who was driving) you can send them back a letter wishing them luck in tracking that person down.
So, if you get a note in the post from McGonads claiming a "civil penalty" (there is no such thing), then if you were not the driver at the time (or cannot remember who was driving) you can send them back a letter wishing them luck in tracking that person down.
Bottom line, it's private property. If they don't want to pay the fine, there's no need for them to park there for more than 45 minutes. They are welcome to seek out the many alternatives offered to them in the free market. Perhaps they could buy a piece of land and use it as their very own parking space.
Dec 5, 2006, 10:42 pm
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Even though there is car park just 100m down the road from me.