Waitlist with no ticket ?
#1
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Waitlist with no ticket ?
Is it possible to be waitlisted without a ticket and, if so, what happens if (when) a seat becomes available ?
Are BA res agents able to tel how many pax are waitlisted ? They always say not, but I sense that this is just a stock anser.
Are BA res agents able to tel how many pax are waitlisted ? They always say not, but I sense that this is just a stock anser.
#2
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yes and you should not be told that they cannot see it as it is available as long as its a BA flight
#3
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Got myself waitlisted and was told there were 4 or 5 ahead of me. When I asked whether they were also golds, I got the enigmatic response "Can't say because of data protection, I don't know how it all works anyway".
If they wanted to, would it be possible for someone more helpful to actually tell me how many Golds are ahead of me ?
Also, will the system send me an email if my statuts changes to confirmed, or is that too much to hope for ?
If they wanted to, would it be possible for someone more helpful to actually tell me how many Golds are ahead of me ?
Also, will the system send me an email if my statuts changes to confirmed, or is that too much to hope for ?
#4
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I have never been told how many Golds are ahead of me, but I have been given a confirmed seat nearer to the departure date after calling again and mentioning my Gold status and my desire to fly only BA.
To this day, I have never received an email regarding moving from waitlist to confirmed.
To this day, I have never received an email regarding moving from waitlist to confirmed.
#5
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Got myself waitlisted and was told there were 4 or 5 ahead of me. When I asked whether they were also golds, I got the enigmatic response "Can't say because of data protection, I don't know how it all works anyway".
If they wanted to, would it be possible for someone more helpful to actually tell me how many Golds are ahead of me ?
Also, will the system send me an email if my statuts changes to confirmed, or is that too much to hope for ?
If they wanted to, would it be possible for someone more helpful to actually tell me how many Golds are ahead of me ?
Also, will the system send me an email if my statuts changes to confirmed, or is that too much to hope for ?
#6
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Got myself waitlisted and was told there were 4 or 5 ahead of me. When I asked whether they were also golds, I got the enigmatic response "Can't say because of data protection, I don't know how it all works anyway".
If they wanted to, would it be possible for someone more helpful to actually tell me how many Golds are ahead of me ?
Also, will the system send me an email if my statuts changes to confirmed, or is that too much to hope for ?
If they wanted to, would it be possible for someone more helpful to actually tell me how many Golds are ahead of me ?
Also, will the system send me an email if my statuts changes to confirmed, or is that too much to hope for ?
That's why an agent telling you that your #2 on the list with a Gold ahead of you means very little. It's all automated.
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If one is really keen to get a seat, could one improve one's waitlist prospects by adding on an expensive onward connection (eg. LHR-HKG in J as the add on) ??
#8
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Two Gold's looking for an ATH-LHR that's sold out in J, C, D, & I.
One Gold member wants to purchase a "J" fare for ATH-LHR-ABZ.
The other wants to purchase a "J" fare for ATH-LHR-LAX.
Which Gold member is going to be comfirmed from the waitlist?
It's also not always good to be waitlisted for a certain flight for long periods. Same situation as above. One Gold requested to be wait listed 2 1/2 months before departure, the other was added to the waitlist a week before departure. The more recent has a better chance of being confirmed as they are more likely to take the flight if confirmed.
That being said, it's still all based on a points system, and no one will be able to tell you where you really are on the waitlist as it's all automated.
#9
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Two Gold's looking for an ATH-LHR that's sold out in J, C, D, & I.
One Gold member wants to purchase a "J" fare for ATH-LHR-ABZ.
The other wants to purchase a "J" fare for ATH-LHR-LAX.
Which Gold member is going to be comfirmed from the waitlist?
It's also not always good to be waitlisted for a certain flight for long periods. Same situation as above. One Gold requested to be wait listed 2 1/2 months before departure, the other was added to the waitlist a week before departure. The more recent has a better chance of being confirmed as they are more likely to take the flight if confirmed.
That being said, it's still all based on a points system, and no one will be able to tell you where you really are on the waitlist as it's all automated.
It sounds from what you are saying that adding a further confirmed J longhaul sector could increase the prospects over a straightforward single waitlisted booking. Presumably there is then nothing that would require one to have the extra sector ticketed if the waitlisted flight goes confirmed. I suppose having that extra sector might actually make the system believe that one was more likely to take the flight as well ....
Whoever dreamt this system up must be a mind-games expert .....
#11
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Any my point is .... That as a BA Shareholder, I have yet to receive a dividend. As a fare paying passenger with a gold card, I have yet ever to move from wailist to confirmed ...
#12
Join Date: Apr 2005
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So, in short, add BA Exec to booking, and check MMB regularly to see if waitlisted flight is confirmed.
To answer your original question, AFAIK, no email is sent automatically.
#13
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If you're relying on dividends for your income, in which case you should probably go for a utility or a bank as they tend to have more stable dividends.
#14
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida
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I have a ticket number but MMB shows Status: Waitlisted. checkmytrip.com shows my ticket numbers but under the details it says "unable to accept sale - flight closed". It is an award ticket using BA miles on RJ on the AMS-AMM-AMS route.
Should I be worried?
Should I be worried?
#15
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FWIW, RJ do some pretty odd things with their availability. One moment it's J9 C9 D9, then next it's all zeroed out. Then it re-appears again.
Also the case that RJ without warning cancels off bookings that it thinks have not been ticketed.
I think a call to BA and/or RJ would be sensile. Possibly RJ didn't see the ticket number in time, and cancelled the booking. They do that.