OT: occupation of BA FTers
Feb 13, 2006, 8:20 am
#61
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Originally Posted by mishkira
Excuse my bit aggreessiveness - just cannot get over after spending week with the group from (one of big 4) who consulted/demonstrated absolutely nothing but charged mountains..
*Ducks*
Feb 13, 2006, 8:39 am
#63
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Research scientist for university which does involve a fair bit of travel to conferences/seminars etc. mainly in US but been to Yokohama, Sydney and Manilla also last year. Always in Y 
and cheapest flight always wins which sometimes involves some interesting airlines/routings!
and cheapest flight always wins which sometimes involves some interesting airlines/routings!
Feb 13, 2006, 8:46 am
#64
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Originally Posted by ojs555
Don't trust me, I'm a sys admin
P.S. Don't assume there's always a lot of travel in IT work. Especially if you work for BA!.. (The Data Centres are in the UK so there's not really a lot of need to travel abroad).
P.P.S. Remember that your degree has nothing to do with your eventual job role!
P.S. Don't assume there's always a lot of travel in IT work. Especially if you work for BA!.. (The Data Centres are in the UK so there's not really a lot of need to travel abroad).
P.P.S. Remember that your degree has nothing to do with your eventual job role!
Feb 13, 2006, 8:48 am
#65
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Originally Posted by alex0683de
Well, another student here, but a Business/International Relations double major for me.
My flying is mostly leisure, with the odd trip to a job interview thrown in. I've also done some internships in far flung places (MEX, SIN, PVG) and those have sometimes required a bit of travel for business, plus the travel any sane person with too much time on their hands would do if they suddenly found themselves in such exotic locales.
Other than that, there's my commute ZRH (school) to FRA (home), which I do about every 6-8 weeks.
The industry I'm looking to join is management consulting, which I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet. The people I know in that line of work also do a fair bit of flying.
My flying is mostly leisure, with the odd trip to a job interview thrown in. I've also done some internships in far flung places (MEX, SIN, PVG) and those have sometimes required a bit of travel for business, plus the travel any sane person with too much time on their hands would do if they suddenly found themselves in such exotic locales.
Other than that, there's my commute ZRH (school) to FRA (home), which I do about every 6-8 weeks.
The industry I'm looking to join is management consulting, which I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet. The people I know in that line of work also do a fair bit of flying.
Feb 13, 2006, 9:03 am
#66
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Sales (UK, European and Global).
I guess quite a bit of travel compared to some here (I have made 6 return trips so far this year) mostly Y except where times determine I can only get a ticket in J
Short haul to around 15 destinations in Europe and the odd trip long haul to North America and/or Asia.
Consultants.....
I am reminded those that can......do, Those that can't......consult!
Bad Attitude
I guess quite a bit of travel compared to some here (I have made 6 return trips so far this year) mostly Y except where times determine I can only get a ticket in J
Short haul to around 15 destinations in Europe and the odd trip long haul to North America and/or Asia.
Consultants.....
I am reminded those that can......do, Those that can't......consult!
Bad Attitude
Last edited by Baracus; Feb 13, 2006 at 9:05 am
Feb 13, 2006, 10:19 am
#68
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Originally Posted by Baracus
Consultants.....
I am reminded those that can......do, Those that can't......consult!
Bad Attitude
I am reminded those that can......do, Those that can't......consult!
Bad Attitude
Originally Posted by StevieJ
Ah Manangement consultants.....someone you give your watch to and they tell you the time......
Originally Posted by mishkira
Is it really an industry (or numerous and growing bunch of overpaid "specialists" who did not succeed in the "real world" environment)?...
Excuse my bit aggreessiveness - just cannot get over after spending week with the group from (one of big 4) who consulted/demonstrated absolutely nothing but charged mountains...
Assuming you are a student (so not so olderly), may I ask how many years you worked in "real world" before starting to be a consultant?...
Excuse my bit aggreessiveness - just cannot get over after spending week with the group from (one of big 4) who consulted/demonstrated absolutely nothing but charged mountains...
Assuming you are a student (so not so olderly), may I ask how many years you worked in "real world" before starting to be a consultant?...
Still, whether you consider them useful or not, they do make a fair bit of money and get to travel. Works for me...
Feb 13, 2006, 10:21 am
#69
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We're not going to get many people admitting to being Management Consultants now are we? And any who have it in their profile are probably busy changing it!
Me - I am full time travel organiser (for myself and the family!) and part time jewellery designer, mother and wife (note the omission of house before wife!).
Got into the jewellery through finding lovely pearls and semi-precious stones on my travels.
Me - I am full time travel organiser (for myself and the family!) and part time jewellery designer, mother and wife (note the omission of house before wife!).
Got into the jewellery through finding lovely pearls and semi-precious stones on my travels.
Feb 13, 2006, 10:33 am
#70
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Originally Posted by alex0683de
Should have seen that coming. I know, I know, "a consultant is someone who knows the entire Kama Sutra but has never had a girlfriend."
Still, whether you consider them useful or not, they do make a fair bit of money and get to travel. Works for me...
Still, whether you consider them useful or not, they do make a fair bit of money and get to travel. Works for me...
However, I cant resist one more snipe using your analogy
In my experience a consultant generally only knows the Missionary and Doggy positions but he will charge you a fortune because he genuinely thinks that this is the entire Kama Sutra
.... and you are almost certainly right about the girlfriend
Bad Attitude
Last edited by Baracus; Feb 13, 2006 at 10:39 am Reason: Spelling!!! Dyslexics of the world untie!
Feb 13, 2006, 10:36 am
#72
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I run my own company (in reality it me + wife as the company secretary) in strategic market development. I work for around 2-3 companies at once - where an SME needs somebody on a temporary basis (3-6 months) to open up either a new geographic market or a specific market sector.
So at the moment I'm assisting one Devon based company to crack the USA and Canada market with high-tec equipment for the power and aerospace markets and in reverse, an Amercian company get into the UK Rail market.
However with the USA work now done, the Devon based company has now asked me to look at India so I'm writing this post from Mumbai. Great place and lovely people - in my hotel an air hostess recruiting forum for Kingfisher Airlines is underway and there are the most stunning girls everywhere ^
Who says business travel does not have any perks
So at the moment I'm assisting one Devon based company to crack the USA and Canada market with high-tec equipment for the power and aerospace markets and in reverse, an Amercian company get into the UK Rail market.
However with the USA work now done, the Devon based company has now asked me to look at India so I'm writing this post from Mumbai. Great place and lovely people - in my hotel an air hostess recruiting forum for Kingfisher Airlines is underway and there are the most stunning girls everywhere ^
Who says business travel does not have any perks
Feb 13, 2006, 10:45 am
#73
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I'm yet another IT technical bod - I work for a medium/large-ish software vendor and cover Europe, Middle East & Africa (more Europe than anything else in practice though).
Travel policy is generally Y unless you are flying more than 8 hours and you will be going direct to a customer from getting off the plane. Only VP level or above get J otherwise. I'm relatively fortunate in terms of TPs and the odd business fare though because of the nature of the work that my team does often mean flexible fares booked at short notice, paid for from the cost centre of someone who is desparate to close a deal or fix a problem. Love my job, hate the travel policy.
Travel policy is generally Y unless you are flying more than 8 hours and you will be going direct to a customer from getting off the plane. Only VP level or above get J otherwise. I'm relatively fortunate in terms of TPs and the odd business fare though because of the nature of the work that my team does often mean flexible fares booked at short notice, paid for from the cost centre of someone who is desparate to close a deal or fix a problem. Love my job, hate the travel policy.
Last edited by Cargo Cult; Feb 14, 2006 at 12:46 am
Feb 13, 2006, 10:47 am
#74
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oops guys I guess I non-intentionally switched the topic of this thread into "usefullness of management consultancy".... Apologies for my first moan on this but I see the topic is hot in your minds 
Generally, I dont see a problem when somebody with many years of practical experience and knowledge of the industry come to analyse/consult the business. But what I dont like at all (unfortunately and opposite, it is quite popular with corporate bosses) when a group of ex-students or even worse past losers with big mouth come to build presentations (based on what you spent days telling them) and then give you a very general summary "to improve" where their company can provide an irreplacable assistance costing a fortune.
ok, I will stop this very OT and lets go back to occupation of FTers thanks for warming up my heart - I feel I am not alone ^
Generally, I dont see a problem when somebody with many years of practical experience and knowledge of the industry come to analyse/consult the business. But what I dont like at all (unfortunately and opposite, it is quite popular with corporate bosses) when a group of ex-students or even worse past losers with big mouth come to build presentations (based on what you spent days telling them) and then give you a very general summary "to improve" where their company can provide an irreplacable assistance costing a fortune. ok, I will stop this very OT and lets go back to occupation of FTers
thanks for warming up my heart - I feel I am not alone ^
Feb 13, 2006, 10:47 am
#75
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I just want to say thanks for all the helpful replies. I think I will prbably try to get into a graduate programme with one of the blue chip companies or a company in the city.
PS: Since you guys travel so much are you not worried that your wives get lonely sometimes and get tempted to stray?
Just a thought.
PS: Since you guys travel so much are you not worried that your wives get lonely sometimes and get tempted to stray?
Just a thought.