The latest 'enhancement' (be warned).
#1
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The latest 'enhancement' (be warned).
I called UK sales today to book a ticket and change from the 286 to 284 tomorrow.
They took my money off me and then said "from today we have to put you through to Customer Services for any non-sales transactions". It was then explained to me that this was to "enhance" service as they expect long telephone delays due to their current sale.
So basically, I pay for a fully-flex First Class ticket at a mere $13k, but when I call to make a change, I go to the back of the queue in favour of someone buying a $100 flight to Paris.
I hope BA realise that the chances of me phoning them when I am not going to make a flight are now severly reduced - why should I have to have an additional wait? I am sure all that lost revenue as a result of non-shows and customer frustration is worth the cost saving BA are getting.
Doooh!
They took my money off me and then said "from today we have to put you through to Customer Services for any non-sales transactions". It was then explained to me that this was to "enhance" service as they expect long telephone delays due to their current sale.
So basically, I pay for a fully-flex First Class ticket at a mere $13k, but when I call to make a change, I go to the back of the queue in favour of someone buying a $100 flight to Paris.
I hope BA realise that the chances of me phoning them when I am not going to make a flight are now severly reduced - why should I have to have an additional wait? I am sure all that lost revenue as a result of non-shows and customer frustration is worth the cost saving BA are getting.
Doooh!
#2
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Nick:
Don't you still get a personal phone call from one of the BA 'latte drinkers' at Waterside, about once a month, asking for your comments, concerns and suggestions.
Or did they cancel this arrangement as further implimentation of their new 'enhancements and refinements'?
Don't you still get a personal phone call from one of the BA 'latte drinkers' at Waterside, about once a month, asking for your comments, concerns and suggestions.
Or did they cancel this arrangement as further implimentation of their new 'enhancements and refinements'?
#3
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by zoosh:
'enhancements and refinements'</font>
'enhancements and refinements'</font>
Does this ever get old? Ever? I feel like pulling my hair out every time I see it. Please find another phrase or something!
#4
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Maws22:
Does this ever get old? Ever? I feel like pulling my hair out every time I see it. Please find another phrase or something! </font>
Does this ever get old? Ever? I feel like pulling my hair out every time I see it. Please find another phrase or something! </font>
And I love it every time I see it. BA chose to use it when it was inappropriate and now they're reaping what they sowed.
--Grog--
#5
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Agreed this 'enhancement' stinks, but I have found the second-line team slightly less stroppy than the former arrangement when it comes to changing multi-leg itins and seating requests.
It seems sales (frontline) are in Glasgow and the second line team in Manchester.
It seems sales (frontline) are in Glasgow and the second line team in Manchester.
#6
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Get Real!.........
Are there any businesses out there who don't use creative marketing speak! UK businesses now have a new toy to play with - active telephone answering that gives priority answering according to geographic location - ie If you live in Mayfair or Belgravia, you get answered in three rings, if you live in Brixton or Bermondsey, you may get a response in six weeks!
.....And all the time you're hanging on to an 0870 number, your telephone's clocking up National Rate charges!!! Why do you think telecoms companies are giving away office pc systems for businesses like BA and BAA to convert to 0870's - it's a real moneyspinner!!!
British Business ethics? There are none!
Are there any businesses out there who don't use creative marketing speak! UK businesses now have a new toy to play with - active telephone answering that gives priority answering according to geographic location - ie If you live in Mayfair or Belgravia, you get answered in three rings, if you live in Brixton or Bermondsey, you may get a response in six weeks!
.....And all the time you're hanging on to an 0870 number, your telephone's clocking up National Rate charges!!! Why do you think telecoms companies are giving away office pc systems for businesses like BA and BAA to convert to 0870's - it's a real moneyspinner!!!
British Business ethics? There are none!
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bealine:
My solution, perhaps not ideal but I feel better if and when I apply it:
1. Use a mobile, which as you know is non-geographic in the UK - and my US mobile is a Santa Monica number .
2. I don't ring BA, BD, Avis or just about anybody else on the 0870 number. I can call the US and most countries in Europe for 1p per minute (and do) so why should I pay 8p per minute to listen to the BA menu.
Of course, the web is virtually free, and if I need to speak to a real live person in the EC, there are ways of doing so on a geographic landline number.
My solution, perhaps not ideal but I feel better if and when I apply it:
1. Use a mobile, which as you know is non-geographic in the UK - and my US mobile is a Santa Monica number .
2. I don't ring BA, BD, Avis or just about anybody else on the 0870 number. I can call the US and most countries in Europe for 1p per minute (and do) so why should I pay 8p per minute to listen to the BA menu.
Of course, the web is virtually free, and if I need to speak to a real live person in the EC, there are ways of doing so on a geographic landline number.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by bealine:
.....And all the time you're hanging on to an 0870 number, your telephone's clocking up National Rate charges!!! Why do you think telecoms companies are giving away office pc systems for businesses like BA and BAA to convert to 0870's - it's a real moneyspinner!!!</font>
.....And all the time you're hanging on to an 0870 number, your telephone's clocking up National Rate charges!!! Why do you think telecoms companies are giving away office pc systems for businesses like BA and BAA to convert to 0870's - it's a real moneyspinner!!!</font>
#12
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The NAEC number is toll-free, so its costing them not you. You just couldn't get away with National Rate or equivalent in the US (though I said that about the NAEC changes didn't I ... :sigh: ) - even my dentist has a toll free!
On topic again: is Merry referring to the regular sales number? Isn't there a dedicated Gold Reservations Desk in the UK any more? There is one here, though I suspect its merely a way of queue-barging into the same call center, rather than a separate person/people.
[This message has been edited by whmere (edited Jan 07, 2004).]
On topic again: is Merry referring to the regular sales number? Isn't there a dedicated Gold Reservations Desk in the UK any more? There is one here, though I suspect its merely a way of queue-barging into the same call center, rather than a separate person/people.
[This message has been edited by whmere (edited Jan 07, 2004).]
#13
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by whmere:
The NAEC number is toll-free, so its costing them not you. You just couldn't get away with National Rate or equivalent in the US (though I said that about the NAEC changes didn't I ... :sigh: ) - even my dentist has a toll free!
On topic again: is Merry referring to the regular sales number? Isn't there a dedicated Gold Reservations Desk in the UK any more? There is one here, though I suspect its merely a way of queue-barging into the same call center, rather than a separate person/people.
[This message has been edited by whmere (edited Jan 07, 2004).]</font>
The NAEC number is toll-free, so its costing them not you. You just couldn't get away with National Rate or equivalent in the US (though I said that about the NAEC changes didn't I ... :sigh: ) - even my dentist has a toll free!
On topic again: is Merry referring to the regular sales number? Isn't there a dedicated Gold Reservations Desk in the UK any more? There is one here, though I suspect its merely a way of queue-barging into the same call center, rather than a separate person/people.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by whmere:
On topic again: is Merry referring to the regular sales number? Isn't there a dedicated Gold Reservations Desk in the UK any more? There is one here, though I suspect its merely a way of queue-barging into the same call center, rather than a separate person/people</font>
On topic again: is Merry referring to the regular sales number? Isn't there a dedicated Gold Reservations Desk in the UK any more? There is one here, though I suspect its merely a way of queue-barging into the same call center, rather than a separate person/people</font>
And yes as you suspect whmere they do just funnel all the calls to the same people. Recently I had a problem and called the Blue line (my line ) and was unsatisfied with the response and so I called the Gold line about 20mins later and spoke to the same guy! My situation was unusal so he recognised my voice and story within a few seconds. Luckily I had a response other than to just put the phone down
The person answering the phone at BA knows whether the person dialling has dialled Premier / Gold / Silver / Blue judged by the response I got a few times
#15
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Maws22:
Does this ever get old? Ever? I feel like pulling my hair out every time I see it. Please find another phrase or something! </font>
Does this ever get old? Ever? I feel like pulling my hair out every time I see it. Please find another phrase or something! </font>