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randoteam3 May 3, 2024 12:33 pm

ITA Matrix is $1600 cheaper than BA - Business Fare (I)
 
Same flight is $4900 on BA. BA says to book the flight and do price match which gives me a voucher i would like to avoid. Is there a way to construct this itinerary via BA/Iberia directly?
Spoiler
 
Google Flights : https://www.google.com/travel/flight...5jhFYKnsTymss7
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Chiller3333 May 3, 2024 12:36 pm

BA won't book you the flights under IB code, which is what the Matrix is pricing.
If you look for hte flights on ba.com, you'll end up on the prime flight numbers, which is probably why it's more expensive.
You could try using ITA PowerTools to book this via American, but I'm not sure if they allow itineraries without AA segments.
Alternatively, you could go through a travel agent to book this.

NWIFlyer May 3, 2024 12:40 pm

BA will usually book this over the phone as it contains a BA flight - at least if you have access to the Gold Line or higher.

Alternatively, cut and paste the entire contents of the last Matrix screen and send it over to someone like Propeller Travel (you can do it directly on their website) and they'll book it for you for a fee.

scottishpoet May 3, 2024 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by NWIFlyer (Post 36207978)
BA will usually book this over the phone as it contains a BA flight - at least if you have access to the Gold Line or higher.

Alternatively, cut and paste the entire contents of the last Matrix screen and send it over to someone like Propeller Travel (you can do it directly on their website) and they'll book it for you for a fee.

or propeller will tell you the cannot get it to price in these fare classes. I have had that conversation with them more than once about fare constructs shown on ita matrix that nobody can replicate

randoteam3 May 3, 2024 12:57 pm

  • ITA PowerTools seems broken, most of links are not updated/mis-constructed.
  • Current better option is to price match via Capitol one Venture X travel portal, though refund is via travel credit that doesn't expire.
  • I am trying to be able build this itinerary in any of portals but haven't been successful so far, only linking via google flights to travel portals seems to work.


KeaneJohn May 3, 2024 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by randoteam3 (Post 36207954)
Same flight is $4900 on BA. BA says to book the flight and do price match which gives me a voucher i would like to avoid. Is there a way to construct this itinerary via BA/Iberia directly?
Spoiler
 

Google Flights : https://www.google.com/travel/flight...5jhFYKnsTymss7
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8ed0926d00.png
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1f9719580b.png

You need to book like for like to get best price guarantee. Codeshare flights don’t count so just be careful.

Ldnn1 May 3, 2024 3:07 pm

Also you can’t do BPG against ITA Matrix anyway as it’s not a bookable site. If you could price it on an OTA then maybe but not with just the theoretical fare construct.

Don’t know what the rules are for the Capital One offer that OP mentions but again I’d be surprised if they price matched to something that isn’t directly bookable.

danielbk May 3, 2024 3:31 pm

It's definitely available and bookable, Propeller Trave will gladly do it for you (but will add a service fee or $45 per ticket).

Axx


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xliioper May 3, 2024 7:15 pm

ITA is nesting BA LHR-HYD + HYD-LHR roundtrip fares inside IB JFK-LHR + LHR-JFK roundtrip fares (you can see there are 4 separate fare components). Normally, there would be $970 each-way YQ surcharges on JFK-LHR and LHR-JFK fares (which you can see below when priced separately). ITA is only charging $1109 YQ for total trip. Not sure how this is being calculated. Other sites are quoting one fare in each direction (JFK-HYD + HYD-JFK) rather than 4 separate fares.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6c91aaa2e1.png

nldogbert May 4, 2024 1:35 am

Maybe slightly offtopic, but I have seen this happen a few times where ITA Matrix fares do not correspond to what you get when booking with BA via the call centre, even though the fare family is exactly the same. (I know this as I had a few times the great GGL agent worked with me to find out why the difference).
It's not as big difference as yours, but still up to 100 Euros more and sometimes less.

Cheers!

NA-Flyer May 4, 2024 8:43 am

Just book it through a TA ;)

Expatriate May 4, 2024 10:33 am

Expedia.ie ?
Expedia.com ?

AA.com , but as already mentioned above, likely need to have at least one AA flight


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