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Which passengers should be included in group 0?

Old May 1, 2024, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
In that respect, Group0 should be strictly reserved to those with a NE postcode, maybe BT too (not SR obvs) - this is because we may get triggered if we travel on BA away from hjem. Oh and BA Forum Ambassadors.
Splendid idea!

Anyone else agree?
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Old May 1, 2024, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by PETER01
Splendid idea!

Anyone else agree?
More chance of pigs being in Group 0 I would say.
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Old May 1, 2024, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by HIDDY
More chance of pigs being in Group 0 I would say.
Well, status doesn't buy class after all...
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Old May 1, 2024, 6:59 pm
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Old May 1, 2024, 10:45 pm
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To the point about Prem & GGLfL being Group 0, the former are normally walked onboard with SS, and the latter seem to get similar treatment - so rewarding GfL wouldn't really detract from that.

I suppose the big question is how many GfL members are there?

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Old May 1, 2024, 11:05 pm
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A lot of the problems are caused by SH baggage issues, which stem from making CE passengers without status group 1 rather than group 2. CW passengers without status are group 2 even when there is no F cabin.

Stop checked cabin bags from getting on the plane, make CE group 2 and a lot of the problems necessitating group 0 would go away.
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Old May 2, 2024, 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
In that respect, Group0 should be strictly reserved to those with a NE postcode, maybe BT too (not SR obvs) - this is because we may get triggered if we travel on BA away from hjem. Oh and BA Forum Ambassadors.
Someone was mentioning that there should be a DYKWIA queue and I would say that Forum Ambassadors fit the bill perfectly

They ,of course, are trumped by Fontaines of Honeurs de Flyertalk and any Muccis loitering at the gate.

I was going to say that I was going to say that I was unaware that NE was not a London postcode but thought better of it. I only get involved in that tangle after a good dose of Carte Noire.

I have always believed the people who need to be on board first are firstly the crew and secondly those who paid to be in the Premium cabins. Fresh from the CCR the GGLs know who they are , indeed if anyone here does not know who they are, maybe they should consult a Specialist and be accompanied to avoid such lapses, poor Darlings.

Now I know that we have to present our passports at the gate; it is to remind some us who we are! This explains why so many of these dramas occur flying domestically from what I gather here.
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Old May 2, 2024, 12:07 am
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I am fine with F being included.

But what about people flying with the GGL member?

A +1 seems reasonable, but if they are a group of 4 on the same flight booking, then less so.
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Old May 2, 2024, 12:08 am
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I wish I’d never mentioned this now.

However…

it’s perfectly feasible, and I’d venture common, for a revenue F passenger to have spent more on a single ticket than a hobby GGL spends for requalification. Most of that is pure margin for BA.

And I was of the understanding F was “board at leisure” anyway. It should be top of the tree in all respects anyway, if BA are maintaining it when others are dropping it. Otherwise the differention to J erodes.

GfL definitely not. This is without self interest, there’s a fair chance I’ll be GfL early next year and I won’t continue with GGL forever. Gfl is just Gold without needing to fly.
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Old May 2, 2024, 12:12 am
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Originally Posted by firstlight
A lot of the problems are caused by SH baggage issues, which stem from making CE passengers without status group 1 rather than group 2. CW passengers without status are group 2 even when there is no F cabin.

Stop checked cabin bags from getting on the plane, make CE group 2 and a lot of the problems necessitating group 0 would go away.
100% agree, in fact a whole lot of silliness could have been avoided from the start if CE was put into Group 2, the "business class" group.
As I have said before, this would have been a big advantage for all of the BA Golds (GGL included) and OWE, and makes perfect sense as they are the group of passengers most likely to be in a row where they can't put their bags at their feet.
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Old May 2, 2024, 12:12 am
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Fresh from the CCR the GGLs know who they are...
After a few glasses of whatever fine champagne is being served that day maybe the GGLs can't remember who they are or indeed which plane they should be on!
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Old May 2, 2024, 12:41 am
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Yes to F - vey limited numbers and often you are behind god knows how many group 1s
No to GFL - The numbers are increasing year on year so will dilute group 0
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Old May 2, 2024, 1:20 am
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Originally Posted by firstlight
After a few glasses of whatever fine champagne is being served that day maybe the GGLs can't remember who they are or indeed which plane they should be on!
and probably care less!!
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Old May 2, 2024, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by Pigeon49
Maybe BA should create a DYKWIA boarding group?

Sounds okay on the face of it, but is this really a good idea ? I mean …..surely it would result in a horribly confused and inconsistent approach by BA gate agents, thus introducing unwanted chaos to the boarding process.

Oh …….. wait a minute …….
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Old May 2, 2024, 4:05 am
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Wouldn't the issue with including F passengers in Group 0 conflict with the general OneWorld logic that Gold/OW Emerald passengers get First class ground handling (check-in/lounge/priority boarding where available), while Silver/OW Sapphire gets business class amenities. If BA were to add F to Group 0, doesn't it follow that Gold/OWE also get it, and you're back to where you started? Then Group -1 is needed?!

I also don't agree with adding GfL, or the notion that GfL should come with additional 'soft' benefits. GfL is Gold. You get the benefits according to that status. The difference is you don't need to accrue any Tier Points in order to keep it. Giving additional benefits to 'lifers' that regular Golds don't have turns it in to a kind of sub-status it was never meant to be.
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