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Which passengers should be included in group 0?

Old May 1, 2024, 11:21 am
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As GfL, former GGL and sporadic F traveller.

GfL should be group 1. F should be Group 0. GGL also Group 0.

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Old May 1, 2024, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
I'd agree with the common on GfL, if only because GfL currently has no soft benefits.

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I'd agree with this too. Really nice reward/benefit to those who reach GFL.
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Old May 1, 2024, 11:32 am
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No to F as 14 passengers being added to the holding pen plus pre-boards and GGL can be too much.
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Old May 1, 2024, 11:34 am
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Back during the trial days we did a group of 10 boarding in group 0 (2x bookings each with a GGL) at GVA. The look of bewilderement on the face of all the group 1s was a sight to behold, however I digress. Group 0 is meant to make the frequent fliers (the majority of whom spend a lot of money with BA) feel good about themselves (wait sorry, did I say that out loud? I meant to reward them...), not the occasional flier who happens to be in F on an Avios booking. Keep it as it is. As mentioned before, GfL is merely just someone with a Gold card for life. That is the benefit.
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Old May 1, 2024, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by HIDDY
I'd rather board at my leisure than be pigeonholed.
In that respect, Group0 should be strictly reserved to those with a NE postcode, maybe BT too (not SR obvs) - this is because we may get triggered if we travel on BA away from hjem. Oh and BA Forum Ambassadors.
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Old May 1, 2024, 11:59 am
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As someone who will (probably) never be a GGL, it's a no to F from me as well. Loyalty across a qualification period should always trump someone who is buying a one-off F fare (if it's not a one-off they probably have GGL so it's a non-issue)
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Old May 1, 2024, 12:23 pm
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It's about aspiration. People in F (and the Golds) should have something to which to aspire.
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Old May 1, 2024, 12:34 pm
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LH for example boards F + HON Circle together while UA boards first GS+1K+other preboards and Polaris comes next. I don't see why F should necessarily board together with group 0, apart from the fact they paid a small fortune for the ticket - the same logichow a GGL or GCH in basic economy will board before a person flying Club Europe.
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Old May 1, 2024, 12:34 pm
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Old May 1, 2024, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by jaro
LH for example boards F + HON Circle together while UA boards first GS+1K+other preboards and Polaris comes next. I don't see why F should necessarily board together with group 0, apart from the fact they paid a small fortune for the ticket - the same logichow a GGL or GCH in basic economy will board before a person flying Club Europe.
Many passengers in J will actually have paid more than passengers in F, cost is not the only factor.
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Old May 1, 2024, 12:56 pm
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I think flying in "proper" F and not being in the first group to board is a bit weird. The routes that still have F tend to be "status heavy" so boarding with Group 1 (which I would have regardless of class of travel) is a bit odd on e.g. a JFK where Group 1 could be 50+ people quite easily (GCH plus hangers-on). I think having 8 (and very rarely 14) extra passengers in F in Group 0 would still keep it very small - and GGLs still get the "recognition" of Group 0 on all the many short and long haul routes which don't have an F cabin.

I don't think GfL should be Group 0 - GfL is a reward in itself (no more TPs to count!) and that's just fine - you're still Gold, that's it (really...).

I struggle to see what practical benefit (really) is derived by GGLs from keeping F pax (i.e. 8-14 people max, on SOME long-haul routes) out of Group 0. It's not really a practical reason, is it...?

Frankly, I don't care that much as I tend to board late / whenever I want - I just think it's a bit odd to exclude F pax from Group 0 and I don't really see why anyone entitled to Group 0 otherwise would be hung up on it. By the same token, I couldn't care less that on short-haul CE board with Group 1 (along with GCHs)
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Old May 1, 2024, 1:01 pm
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I always understood the basic point of oneWorld emerald was to afford F priority to frequent flyers travelling in other classes, and of sapphire J priority to those travelling in a lower class.

I can understand why BA might want to extend pre boarding to a small group of its most valued customers (GGL and Prem). I think calling it Group 0 is a bit silly but hey-ho. I think this discussion of who to add to Group 0 is likely to lead to rampant group inflation, and when everybody has priority no one has priority!

Personally I suggest fixing the cabin baggage allowance vs space available issues and boarding would sort itself out (oh and commencing boarding in good time!)
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Old May 1, 2024, 1:06 pm
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I think that an F passenger should be permitted to board at their leisure, that is at any time, first or last, with any group. Imo, First is First and should be treated uniquely.
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Old May 1, 2024, 1:44 pm
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I will never reach the lofty heights of GGL, although hope to get to GfL in 5-8 years as a retirement gift to myself!

I think Group 0 should be limited to GGL and Premiers on all 2 and 3 class services, it's not as if there will be loads of them so Group 1 will swiftly follow. However, I do agree with jerry a. laska that on 4 class services F passengers should be able to board whenever they want.
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Old May 1, 2024, 1:44 pm
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Group 0 should be kept exclusive IMHO so I would keep it as it currently is + let F board whenever they want. I guess I would add GfL (as I am one) only if there were perhaps an average of 3-4 of us on each flight to keep Group 0 small. TBH am quite happy with permanent Group 1 which serves its intended purpose most of the time.

Anyone have any idea of roughly how many GfL there are on average on an average flight ??
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