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Ex EU returning flight delays - how do I negotiate?

Old Sep 17, 23, 10:16 am
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Ex EU returning flight delays - how do I negotiate?

I’m on an ex EU OSL - LHR - SIN retuning the same way . I have bags so I don’t have a B2B option on the return.

My SIN - LHR - OSL return has a tight connection (65 minutes). QF1 is often late >40 minutes so the chances of missing the connection are high.

When QF1 departs from SIN I’ll know the situation. If it is clear that i’ll miss the connection Qantas are likely to book me on the next flight to OSL. This is no good to me because this will be on the same aircraft as my return positioning flight from OSL and I have bags and can’t do B2B.

Can I insist on leaving the itinerary at LHR, if so, what is the diplomatic language used in these circumstances? Also, will they kick my bags out at LHR?
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Old Sep 17, 23, 10:46 am
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The chances are if you miss your connection they wont be quick enough to retag your bags. So dont worry your bags will eventually turn up at LHR. It might even be same day if they never send them to OSL. Or the day or 2 later. just do the b2b in oslo and when you arrive make the PIT (property irregularity report)
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Old Sep 17, 23, 10:47 am
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As you mention QF1, what airlines are involved for all legs?
Class of travel?
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Old Sep 17, 23, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
As you mention QF1, what airlines are involved for all legs?
Class of travel?
OSL - LHR BA J
LHR - SIN QF F
And back
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Old Sep 17, 23, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
The chances are if you miss your connection they wont be quick enough to retag your bags. So dont worry your bags will eventually turn up at LHR. It might even be same day if they never send them to OSL. Or the day or 2 later. just do the b2b in oslo and when you arrive make the PIT (property irregularity report)
what would the protocol be if the bags did make the OSL flight? Just curious!
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Old Sep 17, 23, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ginger50
I’m on an ex EU OSL - LHR - SIN retuning the same way . I have bags so I don’t have a B2B option on the return.

My SIN - LHR - OSL return has a tight connection (65 minutes). QF1 is often late >40 minutes so the chances of missing the connection are high.

When QF1 departs from SIN I’ll know the situation. If it is clear that i’ll miss the connection Qantas are likely to book me on the next flight to OSL. This is no good to me because this will be on the same aircraft as my return positioning flight from OSL and I have bags and can’t do B2B.

Can I insist on leaving the itinerary at LHR, if so, what is the diplomatic language used in these circumstances? Also, will they kick my bags out at LHR?
I guess this is one of the pitfalls of booking an Ex EU flight. There's no protection between the main flights and the positioning flights.

As a matter of interest, why did you book a flight with such a tight connection if you know that QF1 is often late? I assume the Qantas flight lands at T3 and the BA flight to OSL departs T5? You could ask Qantas to re-price the flight based on you getting off at LHR, but I assume that will be expensive. Otherwise I guess you have to wait until you see which flight to OSL you get booked on and then buy a single to come back with whoever is most convenient.
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Old Sep 17, 23, 12:32 pm
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ginger50 If you book an overnight at LHR, wouldn't QF short check your bags?
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Old Sep 17, 23, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Agent69
...As a matter of interest, why did you book a flight with such a tight connection if you know that QF1 is often late? I assume the Qantas flight lands at T3 and the BA flight to OSL departs T5? You could ask Qantas to re-price the flight based on you getting off at LHR, but I assume that will be expensive. Otherwise I guess you have to wait until you see which flight to OSL you get booked on and then buy a single to come back with whoever is most convenient.
I was in a "naughty" mood and was going to try it.... the thought in my head was that if there is a missed connection then I should have the right to decide when the replacement flight takes place. My argument would be that the purpose of my flight to Oslo was to make another connection... irrespective of where that connection takes me. I was thinking that I could say that the purpose of my Oslo trip is now lost and I would like to take it later in the year please!
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Old Sep 17, 23, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
ginger50 If you book an overnight at LHR, wouldn't QF short check your bags?
There may have been an additional charge to stopover if the LHR transit is more than 24hrs. There would certainly be more taxes to pay as the UK would want their slice in departure taxes. Depending on the underlying rules of the fare selected a stopover may not have been an option in the first place.
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Old Sep 17, 23, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Agent69
I guess this is one of the pitfalls of booking an Ex EU flight. There's no protection between the main flights and the positioning flights.

As a matter of interest, why did you book a flight with such a tight connection if you know that QF1 is often late? I assume the Qantas flight lands at T3 and the BA flight to OSL departs T5? You could ask Qantas to re-price the flight based on you getting off at LHR, but I assume that will be expensive. Otherwise I guess you have to wait until you see which flight to OSL you get booked on and then buy a single to come back with whoever is most convenient.
both terminal three flights all being well. That’s something in its favour but otherwise a rather bonkers itinerary.
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Old Sep 17, 23, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by 1Aturnleft
There may have been an additional charge to stopover if the LHR transit is more than 24hrs. There would certainly be more taxes to pay as the UK would want their slice in departure taxes. Depending on the underlying rules of the fare selected a stopover may not have been an option in the first place.
I was thinking of a transit that is under the maximum. Most international tickets that I fly don't trigger stopovers for sub 24 hour connections, but I usually only need about 12 hours to force an overnight, which also usually guarantees that I'll be reunited with my bags.
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What's the MCT for a T3 arrival to a T5 departure?
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Old Sep 17, 23, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by steve170461
What's the MCT for a T3 arrival to a T5 departure?
Its T3 to T3, I believe it is a 50 minute MCT but not sure.

SxMan - I agree, a bonkers itinerary but I was planning for it to fail, now I'm trying to figure out how to manage that failure!
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Old Sep 17, 23, 1:43 pm
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I think BA->QF in T3 is 1 hour MCT.
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I think BA->QF in T3 is 1 hour MCT.
And QF to BA LHR T3-T3 is 1:00.
From EF:
**-BA II 1.00 TRM 3 - 3
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