“I’m not First trained”
May 25, 2023, 1:30 am
#46
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Do you not just press the "land" button? I mean my car only cost £35K and it can park itself. If I'd paid millions for an airliner I'd expect some nifty driver assistant aids. I know Ryanair have the "land like a breezeblock chucked over a wall" option pack.
May 25, 2023, 2:37 am
#47
Join Date: Dec 2016
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I’m sure you would do a better job than me with my 20hrs of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000.
May 25, 2023, 3:27 am
#49
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May 25, 2023, 3:34 am
#50
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I think I'd be a bit unnerved to be told the crew member had not been F trained. Not from a service point of view, as I am sure that they would give their best, but more from a safety point of view. I would think there would be certain crew actions in emergencies that would differ between cabins that they may not know for that cabin?.
May 25, 2023, 4:09 am
#51
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Cousin flew 737s for BA and now flies Embraers and Gulfstreams. He said if it was a Boeing he would be reasonably confident (bar the 744), but wouldn't want to touch an Airbus!
I think I'd be a bit unnerved to be told the crew member had not been F trained. Not from a service point of view, as I am sure that they would give their best, but more from a safety point of view. I would think there would be certain crew actions in emergencies that would differ between cabins that they may not know for that cabin?.
I think I'd be a bit unnerved to be told the crew member had not been F trained. Not from a service point of view, as I am sure that they would give their best, but more from a safety point of view. I would think there would be certain crew actions in emergencies that would differ between cabins that they may not know for that cabin?.
May 25, 2023, 4:43 am
#52
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I think I'd be a bit unnerved to be told the crew member had not been F trained. Not from a service point of view, as I am sure that they would give their best, but more from a safety point of view. I would think there would be certain crew actions in emergencies that would differ between cabins that they may not know for that cabin?.
May 25, 2023, 4:53 am
#53
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It takes situational awareness and experience to know that a Club World steak when thrown in an overhand motion can immobilise and potentially even kill a potential highjacker, whereas a First steak risks being done only medium-well.
May 25, 2023, 5:02 am
#54
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So likely the issue in the original post in this thread was more about the fact that the CC had forgotten, likely because they don’t regularly work in F?
May 25, 2023, 5:10 am
#55
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Does this mean that something like knowing to fold out the IFE screens for the safety demo be covered in all cabin crew training?
So likely the issue in the original post in this thread was more about the fact that the CC had forgotten, likely because they don’t regularly work in F?
So likely the issue in the original post in this thread was more about the fact that the CC had forgotten, likely because they don’t regularly work in F?
May 25, 2023, 7:58 am
#58
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Does this mean that something like knowing to fold out the IFE screens for the safety demo be covered in all cabin crew training?
So likely the issue in the original post in this thread was more about the fact that the CC had forgotten, likely because they don’t regularly work in F?
So likely the issue in the original post in this thread was more about the fact that the CC had forgotten, likely because they don’t regularly work in F?
That would have happened in CW anyway. I left in 2020 and have not been on a BA long haul aircraft since so I’m unfamiliar with any changes. Maybe the other CC member said they would do it, maybe the IFL offered to do that and hadn’t. We don’t know why, I think most of us are capable of opening a screen up by ourselves.
Quite a few times the video would start before we had just got round to doing it. Lots of glasses to put safely away in the galley etc. in CW, not so many in F. The workload for someone unfamiliar with that galley is quite intense, just trying to find where everything is stowed.
May 25, 2023, 8:03 am
#59
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Why? Depending on who is working with them, you may have a top experience.
I’m fairly sure I could have got a novice through it without anyone noticing much difference.
May 25, 2023, 12:03 pm
#60
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On my recent flight to JFK I had a crew member on my side of the F cabin who wasn't First trained. It seems they had a surfeit of crew on board and they were asked to help out up front. They did a good job but you could tell the difference in service from the person dealing with my partner's side of the cabin. Nothing to complain about, just little touches that showed different levels of familiarity with the whole product.
I think it's good to give crew chance to help out in different cabins - the wider the experience they get, the better they can do their job?
I think it's good to give crew chance to help out in different cabins - the wider the experience they get, the better they can do their job?