Tier point extension (but the other way)

Old Feb 25, 23, 8:32 am
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Tier point extension (but the other way)

So I know BA give an extension of 2 weeks at the end of a tier year but does anyone know if they'll do this at the start?
Looking at doing BAH 5 November returning a week later, OH tier year ends 8 November, this trip would make him silver so the question is would BA move the the tier points into his new year (he will go down to bronze 31/12) would be good to have the 2 silver cards for a may trip to utilise the lounges with a couple who will be travelling with us(WTP) and also are BAH double tier points actually posting on the flown date now.
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Old Feb 25, 23, 8:37 am
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Hard no.
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Old Feb 25, 23, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by Kaylas76
So I know BA give an extension of 2 weeks at the end of a tier year but does anyone know if they'll do this at the start?
Looking at doing BAH 5 November returning a week later, OH tier year ends 8 November, this trip would make him silver so the question is would BA move the the tier points into his new year (he will go down to bronze 31/12) would be good to have the 2 silver cards for a may trip to utilise the lounges with a couple who will be travelling with us(WTP) and also are BAH double tier points actually posting on the flown date now.
Many thanks
Unfortunately, you can't move TP "forward" in this way.

The flight on the 5th will credit to the year ending on the 8th Nov, and that can't be changed.


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Old Feb 25, 23, 8:46 am
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Old Feb 25, 23, 8:46 am
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The actual flight will credit on the 5th but the second set of points may very well credit in the next year. I did a holiday right before my TP year ended and the flights posted on the correct dates but the second set posted around the promised 14th day, which was after. In his case, he’d get 3/4 of the total doubled points credited to his new year.
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Old Feb 25, 23, 9:08 am
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This lack of flexibility likely costs BA/OW

Gold falling to Silver March 8. Have used other alliances in the last 8 weeks. And turned right on plane. Used Avios on J when travelling with partner. 11 flights in last 4 weeks.

Partner year end Feb 8 - hit Silver on Feb 6. Will likely hit Gold by early October.

Her spend on OW partners barely 6k in collection year. Nearly all J ex MNL and KUL. Plus QR upgrade MAN-MNL.


My spend in my collection year 1K. In next year likely to to go to Emirates and Etihad.
And then rebuild Gold from March 9 2024.
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Old Feb 25, 23, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by Modo
This lack of flexibility likely costs BA/OW
I doubt if they care. The rules are well known, repeated here a lot and there is no flexibility in some situations like the one you are in. BA and its IT system sometimes provides flexibility to those looking to retain or gain status, with extensions reductions and offers.
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Old Feb 25, 23, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by Arsey00
The actual flight will credit on the 5th but the second set of points may very well credit in the next year. I did a holiday right before my TP year ended and the flights posted on the correct dates but the second set posted around the promised 14th day, which was after. In his case, hed get 3/4 of the total doubled points credited to his new year.
When the TPs posted is entirely irrelevant, they are always credited based on the flight date. So if you fly on 7/3/23, your year ends on 8/3, and your TPs post on 14/3, they would still count towards 2022-23. You obviously won't see them in your previous year's total by then (as it will have been zeroed out) but it it changes your status for 2022-23 it will be retrospectively changed by the back office (sometimes you'll need to ask), and conversely it won't participate in your 2023-24 status.
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Old Feb 25, 23, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
When the TPs posted is entirely irrelevant, they are always credited based on the flight date. So if you fly on 7/3/23, your year ends on 8/3, and your TPs post on 14/3, they would still count towards 2022-23. You obviously won't see them in your previous year's total by then (as it will have been zeroed out) but it it changes your status for 2022-23 it will be retrospectively changed by the back office (sometimes you'll need to ask), and conversely it won't participate in your 2023-24 status.
This is the case for standard flight TPs, but not for the extra TPs in the double promotion. So in this persons case, the outbound will post crediting to the old year, the inbound will post crediting to the new year, and at some point in the two weeks following the completion of the trip, another set of TPs will credit, this time only referencing the date of posting and not mentioning flint dates. At least that was my experience in a similar situation, and others have said they had to call to request a manual adjustment when they wanted the double points to count for their old year.
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Old Feb 25, 23, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Arsey00
This is the case for standard flight TPs, but not for the extra TPs in the double promotion. So in this persons case, the outbound will post crediting to the old year, the inbound will post crediting to the new year, and at some point in the two weeks following the completion of the trip, another set of TPs will credit, this time only referencing the date of posting and not mentioning flint dates. At least that was my experience in a similar situation, and others have said they had to call to request a manual adjustment when they wanted the double points to count for their old year.
The double tier points T&Cs do say that the additional tier points are added to the original transaction rather than separately but, in practice, you are right that they get posted in one go for the whole itinerary. There is no referencing of individual flights but there is a referencing of the "transaction date" (in addition to the "posting date") and that "transaction date" is that of the first flight in the itinerary. Normally, the relevant date for attribution to a membership date is the "transaction date" rather than the posting date. It may well be that, in the case of double TPs, the system is set up to credit at "posting date" instead of "transaction date". Either way, neither is in line with T&Cs so it should be possible to retro-claim to ask the TPs to be distributed between the relevant dates for each flight if that makes a difference.
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Yes, I am aware of the rules. If you read my initial comment, you’ll see that I said that it “may very well” be that the bonus TPs will credit after the year end. And that that being the case, 3/4 of the total points would credit in the new year. I was clear to say that this had been my experience as well as the experience of others. Should one want to check on that, there’s a thread of several thousand comments where others have discussed the relative merits of calling and asking for the points to be applied according to the Ts & Cs, or not, depending on each individual’s situation.
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Old Feb 26, 23, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by Arsey00
Yes, I am aware of the rules. If you read my initial comment, youll see that I said that it may very well be that the bonus TPs will credit after the year end. And that that being the case, 3/4 of the total points would credit in the new year. I was clear to say that this had been my experience as well as the experience of others. Should one want to check on that, theres a thread of several thousand comments where others have discussed the relative merits of calling and asking for the points to be applied according to the Ts & Cs, or not, depending on each individuals situation.
My O/H had this. They showed a credit date of her new year, but actually went into the old year, and as such she became Gold.
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Old Feb 26, 23, 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by Modo
This lack of flexibility likely costs BA/OW

Gold falling to Silver March 8. Have used other alliances in the last 8 weeks. And turned right on plane. Used Avios on J when travelling with partner. 11 flights in last 4 weeks.

Partner year end Feb 8 - hit Silver on Feb 6. Will likely hit Gold by early October.

Her spend on OW partners barely 6k in collection year. Nearly all J ex MNL and KUL. Plus QR upgrade MAN-MNL.


My spend in my collection year 1K. In next year likely to to go to Emirates and Etihad.
And then rebuild Gold from March 9 2024.
And im sure BA benefit from other airlines in-flexibility as well.
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Old Feb 26, 23, 4:06 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
When the TPs posted is entirely irrelevant, they are always credited based on the flight date. So if you fly on 7/3/23, your year ends on 8/3, and your TPs post on 14/3, they would still count towards 2022-23. You obviously won't see them in your previous year's total by then (as it will have been zeroed out) but it it changes your status for 2022-23 it will be retrospectively changed by the back office (sometimes you'll need to ask), and conversely it won't participate in your 2023-24 status.
You're correct in that's how it should work.

But there are numourous reports of the double tier points posting on the date they were applied, not the dates of the original flights.

If that does happen, the OP should simply keep quiet and consider it a bonus. Do not call BA and say that as the double tier points were in the new year, can the original tier points also be moved? BA will spot the error and simply move the double tier points back to the previous year.
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