PUCCI GALORE

I came back uo from Spain today and had a most interesting conversaton with the Cabin Service Manager. She is leaving as she does not want to be part of Euroflyer Gatwick and whilst this may be a biased view, I will tell you what I learned.

Obvious though it may be, Euroflyer is only Short Haul (Europe). Long Haul Gatwick is BA Mainline. They will be two different entities. What we will notice is that there will be 3 crew maximum on flight. Irrespective of where the curtain is pushed. This is Gatwick only - Heathrow will stay the same getting an extra crew member if the Club Load is above 20 pax, The attitude is if the service does not get done - so be it (nice isn't it?). There will be few experienced staff as many are leaving. I cannot define "many", but there it is. Cabin Crew will work six days on and two days off. (it used to be six on and three off). SInce there will be a lack of experience, I would expect service to suffer.

If I remember anything more I will let you know. Does not bode well IMO

sigma421

Isn't Euroflyer only A320s and 321s? That would mean 4 crew minimum on a 320 and 5 (I think) on a 321. The Club point isn't great news though - although with the amount of time an ET service takes these days, it may be easier.

stifle

I am not doubting your Ladyship in the least but I can't imagine the CAA would sanction this; one must have one cabin crew member per 50 seats or part thereof. It's why the orange peril were tearing out seats from some of their equipment last year to bring it under a multiple of 50 (200 probably).

Starship73

With easyJet it was a case of removing 6 seats on their 156-seat A319s I believe, to be able to go down to three cabin crew.

13901

Galley FM is usually quite entertaining but not always right...

mikeyfly

120 days off a year down to 91 - I can’t believe it

IAMORGAN

I think the overriding takeaway point is no supernumerary crew. Right now, as I understand it, there are triggers for additional crew where the Club cabin exceeds a certain number or for very short routes.

I suppose the point is everything needs to be set up as simply and interoperably as possible.

Thanks for reporting back PG.

Can I help you

LGW A320s will have a minimum of 4 crew, I’m guessing that they will not get a fifth crew member for larger club cabins.

BrianDromey

As a point of comparison do CityFlyer get additional crew for bigger CE cabins?
What�s the max on the E190s?

Cw novice

Just as a few questions

Does this have as much to do with easyJet being the main competitor with BA at LGW. IE for Y it means they will have to compete on price.

Also looking at the routes with the exception of GLA/AMS/LYS the rest will all be 2hrs + would this make service with less crew more feasible even with 12 rows of CE.

As for the reduction in rest days and no cash compensation seems like a sure fire way to lose staff. Am sure many have lives planned around that rota.

Grande Annee

No, the E190�s only operate with 2 cabin crew.

World Traveller Fuss

Annoying to hear about possible club service cutbacks, but longer LGW flights mean longer service times and still 1-tray service. I think that might be less noticeable than a 10-row CDG with cooked breakfasts.

stifle

E190s have 98 seats and always 2 cabin crew.

EJetter

As stated, only ever 2 crew for the entire aircraft (excluding training). Depending on the route there can be a maximum of 14, 22 or 38 Club passengers.

PUCCI GALORE

I�m sorry but I should have been much clearer. This was aboard an A319. The minimums stays at 4 for the A320 and the point is that there will be no extra crew even with large Club loads. This is Gatwick only of course,