BA191 to Austin

Old Jan 24, 23, 4:25 pm
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BA191 to Austin

Iím flying next Thursday to Austin, TX from LHR. Iíve just checked the seatmap on ExpertFlyer and it looks super quiet. Six in Club, five in PE and 14 in Economy.

Are the maps on ExpertFlyer reliable indicators of how busy the plane is booked?

If so Iím hoping thereís lots of time bound cargo on board and it doesnít get cancelled.

Any insight on where the ExpertFlyer map is a true reflection?
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Old Jan 24, 23, 4:27 pm
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The flight will not get cancelled (well unless thereís a tech / crew issue on the day).

You need to consider loads not Seat maps, and more so the return leg.
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Old Jan 24, 23, 4:29 pm
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For a long list of reasons, ExpertFlyer's seat map at this stage won't necessarily be a good guide at this point. You mentioned that you are travelling on "next Thursday". Next Thursday as in 26 January or next week Thursday 2 February? The best time to have a view as to how busy the flight will be would be around 12 hours to departure or thereafter.
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Old Jan 24, 23, 4:31 pm
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For a long list of reasons, ExpertFlyer's seat map at this stage won't necessarily be a good guide at this point. You mentioned that you are travelling on "next Thursday". Next Thursday as in 26 January or next week Thursday 2 February? The best time to have a view as to how busy the flight will be would be around 12 hours to departure or thereafter.
Iím flying next Thursday, 2 Feb. Iíll look closer to the time.
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Old Jan 24, 23, 4:35 pm
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Regardless of what load you may see at this stage, itís very unlikely BA will just cancel it due to a potential low load. I really wouldnít be at all concerned on that front. The only reason I would be checking the seat map at all may be for some strategic seat shifting.
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Old Jan 24, 23, 4:38 pm
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At seven days to departure you will see Ruby status holders selecting seats. That won't be many, and mid week in February is usually a quiet time for travel anyway, but I very much doubt your service will be as empty as it is now. That said, all sales buckets are fully open at the moment. The return flight is busier in any event.
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Old Jan 24, 23, 5:24 pm
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I looked at the seat maps both days and I think OP is flying Thursday Feb 2nd as that is closest to the seats I see taken. All classes are open so the flight does seem quiet but agree it won't get cancelled - the return leg has to be considered also.

As mentioned looking at the assigned seats at this time isn't too useful because anyone Bronze, OW Ruby or lower would have to pay for seats at this time. I should know - I'm on the BA190 flying the other way tomorrow and waited to book seat one week out as a Bronze. Missing 420TP from a recent Cathay trip has stung since I also miss out on lounge access as I am flying W.
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Old Jan 24, 23, 7:49 pm
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I donít understand the allure of Austin at all. I had to attend the Forrester Summit there last May and given how awful the weather was then I canít imagine what June, July, August & September are like. Itís landlocked and suffers from ungodly humidity. This is the time to go and nobodyís going.

Look at tomorrowís VS231 LHR-AUS - WIDE OPEN.

Thursdayís (Jan 26th) KL667 AMS-AUS - Even
worse than VS!

How are BA, VS, KL etc making any money flying empty planes over and slightly less empty planes back on 10-hour flights westbound and 9-hours eastbound? Do they enjoy throwing money into the fire and watching it burn?
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Old Jan 24, 23, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Magnum9 View Post
I donít understand the allure of Austin at all. I had to attend the Forrester Summit there last May and given how awful the weather was then I canít imagine what June, July, August & September are like. Itís landlocked and suffers from ungodly humidity. This is the time to go and nobodyís going.

Look at tomorrowís VS231 LHR-AUS - WIDE OPEN.

Thursdayís (Jan 26th) KL667 AMS-AUS - Even
worse than VS!

How are BA, VS, KL etc making any money flying empty planes over and slightly less empty planes back on 10-hour flights westbound and 9-hours eastbound? Do they enjoy throwing money into the fire and watching it burn?
I flew on BA190 last week AUS-LHR and the seat map looked very, very empty 2 days prior to takeoff, but was probably 80% full across the cabins by the time we departed. Iím not sure if itís last minute demand or redemptions or easy place to reroute people if DFW has issues, but I was surprised how full the flight ended up being.
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Old Jan 24, 23, 11:57 pm
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Not everyone will be flying to AUS as their end destination. Some may be connecting like I will be in a few weeks.
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Old Jan 25, 23, 12:35 am
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It does look like a very quiet flight though:

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Old Jan 25, 23, 12:43 am
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BA wonít cancel an individual flight because of low loads but the combined posts above probably suggest this route might not last forever. Depends how much itís subsidised, though - there may be a significant contribution from local government / tourist boards etc. Hope it lasts until I fly it in May, anyway!
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Old Jan 25, 23, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by Never Stansted View Post
BA wonít cancel an individual flight because of low loads but the combined posts above probably suggest this route might not last forever. Depends how much itís subsidised, though - there may be a significant contribution from local government / tourist boards etc. Hope it lasts until I fly it in May, anyway!
I flew this route 4 times last year, every flight, both outbound and inbound was busy. One was completely full and Iíd estimate the others were 80% plus.
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Originally Posted by Magnum9 View Post
I donít understand the allure of Austin at all. I had to attend the Forrester Summit there last May and given how awful the weather was then I canít imagine what June, July, August & September are like. Itís landlocked and suffers from ungodly humidity. This is the time to go and nobodyís going.

Look at tomorrowís VS231 LHR-AUS - WIDE OPEN.

Thursdayís (Jan 26th) KL667 AMS-AUS - Even
worse than VS!

How are BA, VS, KL etc making any money flying empty planes over and slightly less empty planes back on 10-hour flights westbound and 9-hours eastbound? Do they enjoy throwing money into the fire and watching it burn?
The most overrated city in the US. Mainly self-anointed by those who live there.
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The most overrated city in the US. Mainly self-anointed by those who live there.

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