HIDDY

Sensible lad/lassie.
Just fly with the airline that can offer what you want.

PUCCI GALORE

Indeed so. I couldn’t care less about which aircraft. I do care about decent hours of departure and arrival. I do care that the only other choice for a direct flight is dry. I refuse to have stopovers on a direct flight when I can go non-stop unless there is a big difference in price. I want to go to,CAI this autumn and I shall watch Matrix with some interest.

AnaTravel

I took it that @1Aturnleft was referring to a worldwide route which some people use instead of long haul.

Admiral care on the gender options, lad. 😑🙂 Lassie is fine for me.

I would choose BA for this route if they change the plane type and I'm happy with the restoration of standards. I see you have been to Egypt.

I agree with you regarding dry airlines, especially when going on a leisure trip (if there is a choice). Legroom is (sadly) never an issue for me, being 5'4. My much taller husband isn't keen on over three hours in CE. We all have different priorities and I gain tips on most threads. For example, flying back from CAI to LHR for around £103 might ease the pain of hard Neo seats with little cushioning.😐

KeaneJohn

You know you can pre order the food and drink you want for BA Y in advance.. yes it sometimes doesn’t get loaded so you get a refund ora Plane Food or F&M hamper will get you a near CE meal for unde £20 and ex LHR you have a Boots meal deal and Pret

SA100

that’d fine for out bound. What about the in-bound. I have yet to be on an inbound BA shorthaul that hasn’t had to say to many people we have run out of crisps sandwiches KitKats. As they are sold on the out bound as they only load small amounts like crazy fools.

it’s so dull and boring now. I no longer get angry. I only use ba for work as their experience is awful. And screw up the start of a holiday.

I flew first to the usa last year and they loaded about 2 roast dinners. For a full first cabin.

I’ll look forward to my 18g of nuts on the way home and a second bag to make up for my sold out sandwich/cheese selection/kerridge pie

allturnleft

I remember flying MS on my first ever international flight which was to BOM via CAI in 1985


They had a brand new 767 on the route (a 707 on the BOM leg)

It was the first time I had experience proper airline catering. It was good . I also remeber the cartons of soft drinks including guava juice

In these days of low cast airlines and BA abandoning service on shorty haul Y ; I would be interested to know if some of these airlines outside Europe still offer a full catering tray on Y flights

BA6948

outside of Europe many airlines offer a full catering tray in Y. But in Europe, Aegean Airlines still does.

TedToToe

If preordered, the food for your return flight would be loaded onto the corresponding outbound flight and wouldn't be available for sale to others.

Tafflyer

I beg to differ. My CAI-LHR next Friday has 14 rows in Club Europe. That is actually more premium seats than on the previous Dreamliner. In fact, I might argue the exact opposite, the doubling of frequency and downgrade to short-haul aircraft has more than doubled the premium capacity on the route. The only difference is that passengers, in my opinion, no longer receive a premium standard product.

That said, fares ex-CAI, especially for further afield than LHR, are a fraction of those from TLV while tickets generally have better flexibility and refund options. That I suspect, along with carrying increased connecting premium traffic via LHR, are the main reasons for deploying SH aircraft on the medium to long haul sector.

I loved the days of being FLUB'ed in a 787-10 from CAI, but while long-haul premium fares from Europe have soared, my CAI to LHR to anywhere in the USA fare has remained stable and is now roughly half of what a similar itinerary originating at LHR would cost while still allowing free stopovers and being fully changeable for peanuts. I save the last sector to CAI to fly just before starting my next ex-CAI booking, usually with a couple of days in CAI in between to enjoy the culture and food.

SA100

Did the trip in Y a few weeks ago.

you know what you’re getting which is awful for 5hrs. Pre-ordered food not enough to sustain for trip. Wanted to order more food on board but nearly everything was sold out. If you didn’t pre-order you would have starved.

luckily my coworkers also hated it and will be flying via Jordan for return visits. Going direct Wasn’t worth after all for them 😁

crisdean

Egyptair hands down. BA is for people who like to feel like cattle without legs.

sitting on a wooden bench is nicer! Been to Egypt twice in the last 2 years. I make sure we always fly the 777 or 787 out- and inbound. Issue is the early flight out at 09:40am or so is the big bird. The 16:40 is the leg cutting A320Neo and that plane nearly broke my legs!

Weirdly I find the 777 and 787 ok for legroom. I’m 6’3 so not the shortest. Their service is better and the terminal you arrive at is T3 which is nice and modern. Love it.

fbcooper

I was on cairo to lhr on egyptair yesterday and it was great. The seats were one of the most comfortable short haul business class seats I got to use.

The plane was pretty empty so i switched from aisle seat in a 2 seater to an aisle in the middle 3 seater. Seats reclindd great, had a good amount of cushion. Fell asleep pretty quickly. Bathroom was a decent size. Much more space than polaris bathrooms on united as well.

Anyone connecting in london to the USA, beware as it takes a very long time to get there. Had a 1 hour layover cushion and barely made it 15-20 mins after boarding started despite hauling ... to make it there. Had a bit misfortune, airplane landing 10 mins late, passport control computers freezing up for 10 mins but still u gotta do a 30 min walk and funnily enough just to end up where you started. As we were unboarding i literally saw the gates below us and was like nice, for once a short connection but no those idiots make you tour the whole damn airport.

RichieMc

Not sure what happened here. You don’t need to go through passport control when transiting. And in hundreds of trips through UK border, I’ve never had the computers “freeze up”. Not sure how you would expect to get from your arrival gate straight to departure gate. There’s no exemption for people to skip security just because they notice that they’re close to the departure gate. Everyone needs to reclear security unless you’re connecting from domestic. If you think transferring at LHR is bad, wait til you try JKF, ORD, DFW or MIA. Unless you have GE/TSApre, both immigration and security will almost always be longer that LHR. And you need to go through immigration even if transferring to another country.

PUCCI GALORE

I nearly fell off my chair when I read that. I am intrigued - do tell.

fbcooper

Stateside i am great with tsa/ge/clear. Wish they had a real "global" entry solution. I got the fast pass thing in germany but would be nice to have it in other countires especially tsa pre benefits of not taking off shoes, laptops and liquids. That is the most annoying thing. I was hoping it was like vienna where there was no security/passport check, just transited straight to my new gate.

Yea the freezing up was unfortunate. They had to send two new agents cuz the old agents couldnt sign in onto other computers because their login was tied up on the frozen computers. I definitely thought i was going to get stuck there for an hour.