BA2703 TFS - LGW 10 Nov Returned to airport
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BA2703 TFS - LGW 10 Nov Returned to airport
Todays flight has returned to Tenerife because of smoke smell in cabin. We are now being held airside in a holding area.
Can anyone give guidance as to what is likely to happen next.
Flight departed 14:40 it is now 18:00 we have been in the holding area about 1 hour.
any help/guidance would be appreciated.
Can anyone give guidance as to what is likely to happen next.
Flight departed 14:40 it is now 18:00 we have been in the holding area about 1 hour.
any help/guidance would be appreciated.
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Sorry to hear about this, it's likely to be a long night whatever happens.
Sometimes the fault can be isolated and / or signed off locally.
Other times they will simply cancel the flight (which is what I think has happened here) and then the BA App may well update to give you an alternative arrangement and the option to change it. Presumably to tomorrow's flight. If that happens or you are confident that you won't be flying tonight, I would book a hotel, guideline is 200 per couple sharing per room, and then get yourself comfortable there. Once Flight Status shows Cancelled - as it is here - then usually MMB is released for you to rebook under the Disruption screens.
There may be a rescue flight, that may be the subject of local announcements.
Make a note of timings, key events etc for EC261 purposes.
Sometimes the fault can be isolated and / or signed off locally.
Other times they will simply cancel the flight (which is what I think has happened here) and then the BA App may well update to give you an alternative arrangement and the option to change it. Presumably to tomorrow's flight. If that happens or you are confident that you won't be flying tonight, I would book a hotel, guideline is 200 per couple sharing per room, and then get yourself comfortable there. Once Flight Status shows Cancelled - as it is here - then usually MMB is released for you to rebook under the Disruption screens.
There may be a rescue flight, that may be the subject of local announcements.
Make a note of timings, key events etc for EC261 purposes.
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You should be able to claim those given the short notice cancellation. It's not 100% since usually the rule is "on the day cancellations", plus you will get a part refund for the downgrade, but in this scenario I would imagine you will be granted the higher TP level. You don't have to accept the first offer, you can (e.g.) go via Iberia and Madrid.
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You should be able to claim those given the short notice cancellation. It's not 100% since usually the rule is "on the day cancellations", plus you will get a part refund for the downgrade, but in this scenario I would imagine you will be granted the higher TP level. You don't have to accept the first offer, you can (e.g.) go via Iberia and Madrid.
BA have put us in a reasonable hotel. We are going to stick with the downgrade. However I feel that we will have a battle with the tier points because we booked with BA HOLIDAYS (for the double tier point offer). Im not sure the Gold line will help us in this situation.
When all is said and done we are safe and sound and gold benefits are not the be all and end all.
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thank you again.
BA have put us in a reasonable hotel. We are going to stick with the downgrade. However I feel that we will lhave a battle with the tier points because we booked with BA HOLIDAYS (for the double tier point offer). I’m not sure the Gold line will help us in this situation.
BA have put us in a reasonable hotel. We are going to stick with the downgrade. However I feel that we will lhave a battle with the tier points because we booked with BA HOLIDAYS (for the double tier point offer). I’m not sure the Gold line will help us in this situation.
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Crew taking Club Seats
Incredibly all the crew from yesterdays flight have taken club seats. My wife and I cash paying customers have been located in euro traveler.
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Oooouch!! There are reasons for this, but I can see it is not going to be greatly appreciated by you. When you get back you need to have a telephone conversation with BAH about the TPs and some compensation for the loss of service. They will advise if you need to deal with BAH's own customer relations team. I would normally advise raising it with the IFL but in this case it can't do anything useful.
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This can be incredibly difficult but it is related to the work the crew will have to do after the positioning leg. BA does not like to downgrade fare paying passengers for crew to position, so you can infer there is a strong safety case for it. That may not be comfort in your situation but at least you can understand the logic - even if you disagree with it. Sorry you were so badly affected by the whole sequence of events
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Ouch - well he is airbourne - that really is adding insult to injury. I know all the reasons - but I would be livid. I, however, would not have accepted the downgrade and gone via MAD or later there is space on the later flight.
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Likewise, and I wouldnt have thought twice about hopping on the bus to TFN to do it either.
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This can be incredibly difficult but it is related to the work the crew will have to do after the positioning leg. BA does not like to downgrade fare paying passengers for crew to position, so you can infer there is a strong safety case for it. That may not be comfort in your situation but at least you can understand the logic - even if you disagree with it. Sorry you were so badly affected by the whole sequence of events
I'd understand if this was a long flight in a widebody where the club / first seats were used by crew to sleep so they could work the return.
However, considering that this is an A320 where the seats are the same in club europe compared to economy, why downgrade CE customers? Why not just reserve the last few rows of economy for the crew?
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Just wondering.
I'd understand if this was a long flight in a widebody where the club / first seats were used by crew to sleep so they could work the return.
However, considering that this is an A320 where the seats are the same in club europe compared to economy, why downgrade CE customers? Why not just reserve the last few rows of economy for the crew?
I'd understand if this was a long flight in a widebody where the club / first seats were used by crew to sleep so they could work the return.
However, considering that this is an A320 where the seats are the same in club europe compared to economy, why downgrade CE customers? Why not just reserve the last few rows of economy for the crew?