fully flex tickets ex-europe?
Sep 6, 2022, 12:59 pm
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fully flex tickets ex-europe?
I have an SQ award ticket JFK-FRA and plan to continue on to LCY or LHR. I also plan to switch my award to a nonstop routing if one opens up close in. Is there any cash product that is fully refundable to method of payment? Otherwise I'm afraid close-in fares or availability on FRA-LON will be quite bad. Looking at a couple days from now, the well-timed departures on BA and LH are both over $400 in Y.
Sep 6, 2022, 1:13 pm
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Yes, clearly you can get flexible tickets but particularly if it's a single ticket there isn't much discount on advance purchase. So FRA - LHR is going to be around 650€ and you won't necessarily save much by buying advance. It's a bit like the old rack rate at hotels, if all else fails you end up paying that somewhat high rate. If you see a really low priced inflexible ticket you may want to buy it, if it costs 70€, and you may gain flexibility if BA cancels the original service. Note that Plus fares in Economy can be moved free of charge to a later flight the same day, but the move can only be made on the day. See the FCOD thread for more information.
Sep 6, 2022, 2:27 pm
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You mention cash - BA have a sale on now for points (Avios). so might be worth spending cash on them if there are reward flights available for your dates.
Avios reward flights can be cancelled up to 24 hours before departure for a small fee - as little as Ł1 depending which reward/price combo you go for.
Avios reward flights can be cancelled up to 24 hours before departure for a small fee - as little as Ł1 depending which reward/price combo you go for.
Sep 6, 2022, 5:03 pm
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Sadly no BA or LH awards are available.
I found a flight available with fare MV2COMR through amex travel which seems sensible enough:
I don't mind paying $30 to cancel if the close-in award shows up.
Somewhat concerningly, it's a 65 minute connection from the SQ flight, but SQ 25 usually gets in early and non-schengen to non-schengen at fra is probably fine? I-I MCT is like 45 mins.
I found a flight available with fare MV2COMR through amex travel which seems sensible enough:
CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE EUR 30.00.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY CHARGES APPLY PER
FARE COMPONENT TO ALL PASSENGER TYPES. INFANTS
WITHOUT A SEAT ARE NOT CHARGED THE FEE.
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WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
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IN CASE OF ANY NO SHOW WITHIN THE FARE COMPONENT
THIS FARE COMPONENT BECOMES NON REFUNDABLE.
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REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
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BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE EUR 30.00.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY CHARGES APPLY PER
FARE COMPONENT TO ALL PASSENGER TYPES. INFANTS
WITHOUT A SEAT ARE NOT CHARGED THE FEE.
----------------------------------------------
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
----------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF ANY NO SHOW WITHIN THE FARE COMPONENT
THIS FARE COMPONENT BECOMES NON REFUNDABLE.
-----------------------------------------------
REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
-------------------------------------------------
Somewhat concerningly, it's a 65 minute connection from the SQ flight, but SQ 25 usually gets in early and non-schengen to non-schengen at fra is probably fine? I-I MCT is like 45 mins.
Sep 6, 2022, 5:31 pm
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"Probably fine" is courting trouble in my book. You're braver than me to risk it.
Sep 6, 2022, 6:06 pm
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+1 on the above suggestion by Flygod when there is award availability. If you need flexibility, it is really worth keeping a stack of BA or AA miles (or even buying on the frequent sales) and using reward tickets.
IMHO the ability to change and cancel is one of the major benefits of the frequent flyer schemes, particularly when cash fares have increased so much.
IMHO the ability to change and cancel is one of the major benefits of the frequent flyer schemes, particularly when cash fares have increased so much.
Last edited by Bullswood; Sep 6, 2022 at 6:11 pm
Sep 7, 2022, 12:51 am
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Sadly no BA or LH awards are available.
I found a flight available with fare MV2COMR through amex travel which seems sensible enough:
I don't mind paying $30 to cancel if the close-in award shows up.
Somewhat concerningly, it's a 65 minute connection from the SQ flight, but SQ 25 usually gets in early and non-schengen to non-schengen at fra is probably fine? I-I MCT is like 45 mins.
I found a flight available with fare MV2COMR through amex travel which seems sensible enough:
I don't mind paying $30 to cancel if the close-in award shows up.
Somewhat concerningly, it's a 65 minute connection from the SQ flight, but SQ 25 usually gets in early and non-schengen to non-schengen at fra is probably fine? I-I MCT is like 45 mins.
Frankfurt is probably the most difficult transfer airport of its type in Europe. You could always buy on the day, or deploy Avios on the day.
