Exciting opportunity to join BA
Sep 6, 2022, 7:08 am
#31
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 460
I have no doubt that most people in the job market are capable of reading these descriptions of job opportunities and making the decision whether to apply or not. In the selection process which is 2 way, they will doubtless decide whether it is for them or not.
I do have some sympathy with the comments that the JD is woolly. It certainly is and I’m sure wastes a lot of time on both sides but it has been like that for many years in most industries. I’ve been sent JDs from agents that I simply can’t fathom. Are they taking about skills I have? What exactly is the role and day to day responsibilities? It doesn’t help that on further questioning the agent just repeats the buzz words in the ad and on probing really has no idea and hasn’t asked.
At least there is no agent involvement but BA’s internal recruiters seem to have all of the same skills!
It would certainly be interesting to find out who got the job eventually and their relevant qualifications and experience , what the job really encompasses and possibly the salary but of course we never will. Nor should we really.
I do have some sympathy with the comments that the JD is woolly. It certainly is and I’m sure wastes a lot of time on both sides but it has been like that for many years in most industries. I’ve been sent JDs from agents that I simply can’t fathom. Are they taking about skills I have? What exactly is the role and day to day responsibilities? It doesn’t help that on further questioning the agent just repeats the buzz words in the ad and on probing really has no idea and hasn’t asked.
At least there is no agent involvement but BA’s internal recruiters seem to have all of the same skills!
It would certainly be interesting to find out who got the job eventually and their relevant qualifications and experience , what the job really encompasses and possibly the salary but of course we never will. Nor should we really.
Sep 6, 2022, 8:37 am
#35
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,196
Band 3 is graduate entry pay so it isn’t much at all. Everyone is an executive these days aren’t they? A shiny name badge and role title always makes up for a pittance in salary. It says so in ‘managers vs executives 101 for dummies’. Hardback and e-book versions are available.
Rumour has it that HAL once wanted to re title/designate/whatever the trolley pushers as ‘TREEs’, Trolley Recovery Engineering Executives, whilst simultaneously re arranging their shift patterns to make them work harder with less time off for the same pay. Genius.
Rumour has it that HAL once wanted to re title/designate/whatever the trolley pushers as ‘TREEs’, Trolley Recovery Engineering Executives, whilst simultaneously re arranging their shift patterns to make them work harder with less time off for the same pay. Genius.
Sep 6, 2022, 8:46 am
#37
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: BA GGL, LH FTL
Posts: 3,578
I'd like to nominate the young woman who served me on my CE Gatwick flight last night, who was insistent that she bring me ice for my champagne, even after I pointed out - as an attempt to put her off - that the ice cubes wouldn't even fit in the tiny BA champagne glasses.
Kid was so young I doubt anyone has ever given her a glass of champagne, she potentially wasn't even legally old enough to drink one.
Kid was so young I doubt anyone has ever given her a glass of champagne, she potentially wasn't even legally old enough to drink one.
Sep 6, 2022, 8:56 am
#39
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,065
Modern business practice is to give everyone a fancy sounding job title with a few buzzwords like executive in there to make everyone feel special
Sep 6, 2022, 9:08 am
#40
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 5 miles from EMA
Programs: BD, BAEC Pleb, VS Pleb, Accor Pleb, HHonors Gold, Big White Season Pass
Posts: 5,904
Sep 6, 2022, 9:30 am
#41
Join Date: May 2006
Location: London Heathrow
Programs: British Airways Executive Club
Posts: 719
Has this post been started by someone from BA’s recruitment team? I know that they’re struggling to fill roles, but are they now posting about exciting opportunities to join BA on Flyertalk?
With no disrespect intended to the people still there, I’m sure that there’s some great talent within it, but certainly before I left BA, it had some of the least dynamic people working at BA in it, who already worked for a company that could turn things around about as quickly as an oil tanker. No sour grapes, just my experience. There are many wonderful colleagues across BA who are safety focused, customer centric and a real joy to have as a colleague, but not many of them are in Waterside.
If it takes nearly a decade to roll out a new style of teapot, and then you give out an award to the person that spent the last decade working on that as their main project, it should hopefully give an idea about how exciting and dynamic it is as a department.
With no disrespect intended to the people still there, I’m sure that there’s some great talent within it, but certainly before I left BA, it had some of the least dynamic people working at BA in it, who already worked for a company that could turn things around about as quickly as an oil tanker. No sour grapes, just my experience. There are many wonderful colleagues across BA who are safety focused, customer centric and a real joy to have as a colleague, but not many of them are in Waterside.
If it takes nearly a decade to roll out a new style of teapot, and then you give out an award to the person that spent the last decade working on that as their main project, it should hopefully give an idea about how exciting and dynamic it is as a department.
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Sep 6, 2022, 10:13 am
#42
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,595
I can assure you I have never worked for BA and have no intention in applying for this exciting opportunity either!
Sep 6, 2022, 3:33 pm
#43
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 285
It looks like a Product Owner role. BA are obviously trying to align their IT (!) improvement programme (!!) with agile delivery (!!!). They’re employing Product Owners and Business Partners whose jobs it will be to improve and develop “stuff and things” within BA. So they’ll sit there trying to plait fog for 8 to 10 months until they’re enhanced away in another cost cutting exercise.
Sep 6, 2022, 4:04 pm
#44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: London, Babylon-on-Thames
Programs: BAEC Blue (back to Earth)
Posts: 1,506
If BA have embraced Agile then that would explain the ongoing omnishambles. It's fine for software dev but outside that, it's very culty and divorced from day to day.
Sep 6, 2022, 4:19 pm
#45
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BA Exec Club, Flying Blue
Posts: 638
It looks like a Product Owner role. BA are obviously trying to align their IT (!) improvement programme (!!) with agile delivery (!!!). They’re employing Product Owners and Business Partners whose jobs it will be to improve and develop “stuff and things” within BA. So they’ll sit there trying to plait fog for 8 to 10 months until they’re enhanced away in another cost cutting exercise.