mclachlan4321

Looking at flights to ORD from LHR this autumn, and wondering whether I should pay the extra for an F seat. It seems to be the A380 outbound, and 787 inbound flights that suit my times best.

The extra amount of cash isn’t huge on the dates I’m looking at, and apart from the extra Avios, do those more frequent fliers than myself think there’s much of a difference between the classes these days.

thank you.

MrMB

Big difference between J and F if you're flying those 2 aircraft, with the old-style club world seats (no aisle access, facing another passenger, etc.)

camdentown

More space.
Slightly better food at present.
More personal service due to higher crew:Passenger ratio.

Genius1

First is back to pre-pandemic service, Club World still has the pandemic single tray with no choice of starter or dessert and weak second meals on most flights.

abligh

I've somehow ended upgraded on every CS J flight I've had, but for non-CS J, one of the often overlooked differences is that storage space in F is minimal compared to J. F on the flights I have been on has seemed very tired. You get more room than J obviously and the food and service is better. F on an A380 is one of the better F's in my opinion (and there is no CS in A380 J so the difference is more profound). OTOH I've not been on an F flight that has disembarked through door 1 (F door) for a while, meaning in practice F is disembarking after half of J. Getting 2 A380 air bridges to work seems to be a challenge, let alone 3.

binman

in other words it’s CW+ again

When BA can cater like this, they can again call it First Class. It’s ice cold vodka in the glass

travelinmanS

There is a big difference on the ground at LHR with the first check in and security area and the Concorde room access.

I had a great flight in first LHR SJC recently and my seat looked much more spacious than the CW seats when I took a peek back behind the curtain.

AleTrail

Don't forget the Avios and TP's too!

Magnus77

Am flying up front from ORD in 10 days. Picked the 787 flight as its the new 10 version with the doors. I now pick services with a higher chance of a newer first product. I have been on the new CS as well and like it, although its hit and miss if you get it like New First is. Am not a fan of the all on one tray for me its just an ease of service ploy now in club. For those reasons I will look at first over J all of the time.

TTmex

I find caviar as a First-class product so cliché now, however a set of well cut sashimi would be most welcome in BA First.

Radiation Station

The optics look a little different if you’re Gold/GGL. Personally, I enjoy First but it’s not a massive jump in hard product over Club Suite, so it depends on your priorities. I’ve found the service anywhere from okay to great in First.

chriswiles

There's a lot of difference at the moment, from my perspective, at least at the moment.

In Club, if you might get an old CW seat, you still have to step over the other person, you get served food on a single tray, the portion sizes are about equal with CE and there's no choice for starter or pudding. The second meal is just an economy-style snack. The service is less attentive, no hot towels etc.

Although First meals might not match rival flights, with BA it's almost identical to 2019 in terms of service and quality and, thus, better value for money if the extra cash isn't huge.

CappuccinoAddict

I thought F does not have doors, even on the 787-10? Would be curious to know if it does since I recent booked F on the -10 myself, although not until early next year.

orbitmic

F has doors on the 781 and on one specific version of the 777. It doesn't currently have doors on any other version.

CS is nice but people should remember that it is never guaranteed except (bar exceptions) on JFK flights as those booked to AUS have recently been painfully reminded.

I'm flying J next month, "Old" CW both ways, still pre-winter improvement catering, 787 not-so-great cabins (788 and 789) and including on ultra long haul (SCL, BA's longest nonstop route). It will be perfectly adequate and comfortable and fine (managed to get one of the last available windows) but I can't pretend it is a trip I am expecting wonderful luxury from. By contrast, flying F a few weeks later, including 781 one of the two ways, and this time, it is actual flights I am genuinely looking forward to, notwithstanding what others understandably say about how it compares with a number of other airlines.

jbandy10

Are you sure? Every image and video I've seen on the 787-10 first shows no door. The Godsavethepoints article even explicitly said no doors.