BA Winter 22/23 Route Updates

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BA Long haul W22/23 Route Updates::

Updated 02AUG22/23:30

All Changes from 30OCT22 r unless otherwise stated. Further changes highly likely

London Gatwick:

Antigua - Terminator service will operate 2 of 7 x Weekly.
Cancun - Frequency increases to Daily
Cape Town - Resumes 13DEC22 3 x Weekly
Doha - Daily service transfers from LHR
Grenada - Increases from 2 to 3 x Weekly. 2 x Weekly flights via St Lucia complimented with a new 1 x Weekly services operates via Antigua
Islamabad - Unclear whether route will operate. Daily flights shown in timetable currently closed for reservation.
Montego Bay - 2 x Weekly seasonal service cancelled
New York (JFK) - Will be temporarily paused between 16JAN23 - 09FEB23. Operates Daily for remainder of the season.
Providenciales - Providenciales transfers to LHR via Nassau
Punta Cana - 3 x Weekly non stop service resumes 01NOV22 replacing current flights via Antigua
San Jose (Costa Rica) - 3 x Weekly seasonal service resumes 08NOV22

London Heathrow:

Accra - Frequency increases from 5 x Weekly to Daily. Will be operated on a A350-1000XWB
Atlanta - Frequency increases from 5 x Weekly to Daily. 4 Class 777 with club seats (14F/48J/40W/136Y) replaces 787. Flights transfer to T3
Austin - Transfers from T5 to T3
Bahrain - Frequency increases from 5 x Weekly to Daily from 31OCT22. 4 Class 777 with club seats (14F/48J/40W/136Y) replaces 787-8. Flights transfer to T3
Baltimore - From 30OCT22 5x weekly, no flights Sunday and Wednesdays, and on 24NOV22 and Sat 24DEC22
Barbados - 4 Class 777-200ER with Club Suite replaces current non Club Suite aircraft
Bangkok - Route officially suspended for Winter 22/23
Bangalore - Will operate Daily. 3 Class 777-200ER replaces A350-1000XWB
Boston - BA213/BA212 A380 service will be replaced by B777-200ER.
Between 21st-25th Nov, 24th Dec -1st Jan and 16th - 27th Jan service will be reduced to double daily, otherwise service will be 3 daily operated by 2 x B777-200ER and 1 x B789
Buenos Aires via So Paulo - Transfers from T5 to T3
Cape Town - Second Daily rotation (BA43/BA42) reinstated from 20NOV22
BA43/BA42 - Daily A350-1000XWB
BA59/BA59 - Daily 3 Class 777-200ER

Dubai - Frequency increases from 2 to 3 x daily from 11DEC22
BA105/BA104 - Daily 3 class 777-200ER. Flights operate 14NOV22 - 25MAR23
BA107/BA106 - Daily 787-8 operates 30OCT22 - 13NOV22 and 27NOV22 - 25MAR23
BA109/BA108 - Daily A380 operates 30OCT22 - 26NOV22 and 11DEC22 - 25MAR23

Denver - 787-8 operates 5 x Weekly and 787-10 2 x Weekly until 01DEC22 when 787-10 begins to operate Daily
Hong Kong - Resumes 05DEC22, flights will initially operate 4 x Weekly before increasing to Daily from 31DEC22. Flights will operated by a 787-9
Johannesburg - Operates 2 x Daily
BA55/BA56 - 787-9 operates Daily until 09JAN23 when switches to daily A380
BA57/BA54 - A380 operates Daily
Kuwait - Frequency reduced to 4 x Weekly until 15JAN22 when Daily service resumes
Las Vegas - Transfers from T5 to T3
Los Angeles - Frequency reduces to 2 x Daily (BA281 x B77W & BA269 x A380) for November (1 a day for Thanksgiving week) before the BA283 is reinstated for early December (1 x B789). Frequency reverts back to 2 x daily from 12th December (dropping to 1 daily flight over Christmas)
Miami - 2nd Daily rotation returns for W22/23
BA207/BA206 - Daily A380
BA209/BA208 - Daily 787-10

Nairobi - Transfers to T3. 3 Class 777-200ER operates 4 x Weekly until 27NOV22 when increases to Daily.
Newark - Day flight from Newark to Heathrow will continue for the winter 22/23 timetable (was due to finish at the end of October)
New Orleans - Frequency reduced from 5 to 3 x Weekly, mix of all 3 787 variants will operate during the season
Orlando - Operates Daily until 01DEC22 when all flights are consolidated at LGW
Phoenix - Transfers from T5 to T3
Providenciales via Nassau - From 04NOV22 3 Class 777-200ER operates 2 x Weekly
Seattle - Frequency reduced from 10 x Weekly to Daily. 787-9 operates until 01DEC22 when it switches to a 787-10
Singapore - BA011/BA12 terminator service resumes 06NOV22. Daily 787-9 operates
Sydney via Singapore - Daily service upgrades from 787-9 to 777-300ER with Club Suites
Tokyo (Haneda) - Daily flights resumes 13NOV22. A mix of 787-8/787-9 will operate in a 3 class configuration with First sold as CW on 787-9 flights Current planned schedule is:

BA007 LHR 08:55 HND 07:35+1 787 x246
BA005 LHR 11:45 HND 10:25+1 787 246

BA008 HND 09:45 LHR 15:25 787 x357
BA006 HND 13:15 LHR 18:55 787 357

Toronto - Continues 2 x Daily with following aircraft type changes
BA093/BA092 - 4 x Weekly A350-100XWB & 3 x Weekly 3 Class 777-200ER replaces 787-8
BA099/BA098 - Daily 3 class 777-200ER replaces 787-8/9

Vancouver - Frequency temporarily reduced from Daily to 4 x Weekly between 13NOV22 - 11DEC22. 777-300ER with Club Suites operates until 31DEC22 when switches to 3 class 777-200ER.
Washington - Operates 2 x Daily
BA217/BA216 - Daily A380 operates except 12DEC22 - 09JAN23 when I reverts to a 787-9
BA293/BA292 - 6 x Weekly 787-10 and 1 x Weekly 787-8


Sources: London Air Travel, Expertflyer & Flyertalk Posters


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Old Jul 22, 22, 6:48 am
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BA Winter 22/23 Route Updates

Might be time for a consolidated thread on BA's Winter 22/23 plans given the amount of info being reported by the very helpful London Air Travel Twitter and website account

Current Updates:

1) LHR - SIN - SYD (BA15/16) plans to change from a B789 to a B77W for the winter season which will significantly improve the chances of getting CS on the route
2) LHR - SEA goes down to 1 daily flight
3) LHR - JNB will be operated by 1 x A380 and 1 x B789 until at least January
4) LHR - LAX goes back to just 2 daily flights until December at least
5) LHR - MSY goes down to 3 flights per week (from 5)
6) LHR - BKK suspended (officially)
7) LGW - MAN has been suspended
8) LON - MCO flights consolidated at LGW for Winter 22/23

Additional updates will be reported as they are released

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Old Jul 22, 22, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by Pilot37 View Post
Might be time for a consolidated thread on BA's Winter 22/23 plans given the amount of info being reported by the very helpful London Air Travel Twitter and website account

Current Updates:

1) LHR - SIN - SYD (BA15/16) plans to change from a B789 to a B77W for the winter season which will significantly improve the chances of getting CS on the route
CHECK..

Just had the notification and my 1st November SIN outbound is now NCS, we come back First and have no idea if the 77W is and improvement or not over the 789. Time will tell.
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Old Jul 22, 22, 7:26 am
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CHECK..

Just had the notification and my 1st November SIN outbound is now NCS, we come back First and have no idea if the 77W is and improvement or not over the 789. Time will tell.
looks like a swap - CS 77Ws to Sydney and the 787-9 on the SIN terminator
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Old Jul 22, 22, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Pilot37 View Post
Might be time for a consolidated thread on BA's Winter 22/23 plans given the amount of info being reported by the very helpful London Air Travel Twitter and website account

Current Updates:

1) LHR - SIN - SYD (BA15/16) plans to change from a B789 to a B77W for the winter season which will significantly improve the chances of getting CS on the route
2) LHR - SEA goes down to 1 daily flight
3) LHR - JNB will be operated by 1 x A380 and 1 x B789/B788 until at least January
4) LHR - LAX goes back to just 2 daily flights until December at least
5) LHR - MSY goes down to 3 flights per week (from 5)
6) LHR - BKK suspended (officially)
7) LGW - MAN has been suspended
8) LON - MCO flights consolidated at LGW for Winter 22/23

Additional updates will be reported as they are released

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One of the JNB flights going to 788 means no F which is a significant reduction. Were in F on the flights now changed to 787s but at end of Jan so well see what happens
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Old Jul 22, 22, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by andymcdonnell View Post
One of the JNB flights going to 788 means no F which is a significant reduction. Were in F on the flights now changed to 787s but at end of Jan so well see what happens
The press release on the JNB flights didn't state which B787 model would operate the 2nd JNB flight, but given there is no F on the current A350 JNB flights and the A380 offers 14 F seats, I opted to insert B788/B789 options to the announcement until we know more about what BA plans to do with F on that 2nd service, so don't stress too much for the moment.

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Old Jul 22, 22, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by andymcdonnell View Post
One of the JNB flights going to 788 means no F which is a significant reduction. Were in F on the flights now changed to 787s but at end of Jan so well see what happens
Yes, that would be a significant reduction. On the same switched flights 20 Dec and 1 Jan still showing in F, but will need to watch.
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Isnt the BA strategy to phase out First as we know it anyway? The future being an extremely small F cabin for an extremely select few routes?
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Originally Posted by sammyg901 View Post
looks like a swap - CS 77Ws to Sydney and the 787-9 on the SIN terminator
Agreed. We have a flight to SIN in December (now 789), and then a flight back from SYD in January (now 77h, with Club Suites).
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Only 1x daily HKG on 789, although it's debatable if that will survive as Virgin have already announced they won't be flying the route until March.
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Just been informed slight change in time for our November flight CPT-LHR BA42 - moved from 21.55 dept to 21.05 - no big deal for us. However I checked the seat map and it's now an A350 instead of 77L which I think is a moderate upgrade, although both have CS.
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Originally Posted by danmushman View Post
Just been informed slight change in time for our November flight CPT-LHR BA42 - moved from 21.55 dept to 21.05 - no big deal for us. However I checked the seat map and it's now an A350 instead of 77L which I think is a moderate upgrade, although both have CS.
IMHO a much nicer ride
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I am most excited about the SIN -- 77W going might mean some 14-seater first on the route. i could find 0 A seats for most of august and september...
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I am most excited about the SIN -- 77W going might mean some 14-seater first on the route. i could find 0 A seats for most of august and september...
Sorry to throw a dampener on your excitement but the 77Ws allocated for the winter schedule all look to be refurbished with 8F.

The significant uplift in seats is in J, from 48J on a 789 to 76 on a refurbished 77W CS, which is even more than pre-covid to Sydney when the unrefurbed 77Ws had 56J.
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Originally Posted by G_CIVV View Post
Sorry to throw a dampener on your excitement but the 77Ws allocated for the winter schedule all look to be refurbished with 8F.

The significant uplift in seats is in J, from 48J on a 789 to 76 on a refurbished 77W CS, which is even more than pre-covid to Sydney when the unrefurbed 77Ws had 56J.
I wonder if any more I class fares might pop up, now it looks pretty nailed on for CS I might finally get use of my Companion Voucher
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Originally Posted by G_CIVV View Post
Sorry to throw a dampener on your excitement but the 77Ws allocated for the winter schedule all look to be refurbished with 8F.

The significant uplift in seats is in J, from 48J on a 789 to 76 on a refurbished 77W CS, which is even more than pre-covid to Sydney when the unrefurbed 77Ws had 56J.
Ah well good to know - i am already struggling - Both BKK AND SIN --> ZRH are sold out in F most of the time, and BA only offers sporadic full F fare always now, i really wanna go and renew my HON or focus on GGL but lack of actual physical seats make it impossible. not everyone can plan 6 months in advance to grab an avios seat...
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