BA16 (SYD-SIN-LHR) monkeypox outbreak
 

Quite a story brewing in Singapore…..

British Airway crew member struck down with monkeypox – sparking massive delay to London-bound flight

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18960795/british-airway-steward-monkeypox-singapore-diplomatic-row?utm_source=sharebar_app&utm_medium=sharebar_ap p&utm_campaign=sharebar_app_article

And a photo of an A320 for Singapore flight!

Did you not know that BA ultra long haul has now been enhanced?

The route is actually LHR-FRA-IST-DXB-DEL-BGL-SIN but they only tell you that once the doors are closed and the plane has pushed back.

Whole crew is quarantined in SIN until the 10th July apparently.

That is awful. Hope they are being well
looked after and cared for. Doubtless some of the crew will have partners and kids from whom they now face prolonged and unplanned separation.

What’s the timing of an LHR-SYD turn for crews these days? About 8 days?

there is a little monkeypox circulating in Sydney but I suspect most likely had it before leaving the UK given the 7-14 day incubation period

The entire trip takes 9 days out of a crew member’s roster, albeit reporting late on day 1 and clearing early on day 9.
2 nights in SIN, 1 in SYD and another 2 in SIN.

Hard to believe that it was picked up in Sydney, given the timings.

We don’t have enough information to conclude it was picked up in the UK, given we don’t know what the crew member’s movements were before he left for Singapore.

In any event, let’s hope my beloved homeland doesn’t indulge in another round of “close the borders to stop diseased foreigners bringing vile pathogens to this unspoilt land” hysteria.

Given how it takes 2-3 weeks for symptoms to appear; the crew members afflicted almost certainly acquired monkeypox within the UK before travelling with work.

lets hope this doesn’t devolve into a diplomatic incident…

Given how it's transmitted I very much doubt that will happen. It's not a big deal.

oh, I agree. But the British tabloids as well as Asian governments are equally hysterical when it comes to both covid-19 and monkeypox.

It’s worth remembering that pretty much everyone over 50 in the world is protected against monkeypox (as smallpox vaccines are both effective and offer lifelong).

Today I learned... :tu:

Yes there’s been a fair bit of nonsensical antivax stuff going on in Australia “yet another opportunity for them to push an untested vaccine on us” Etc. Um. Has been in use for over 300 years folk!

Right. In some parts of the world pretty much everyone over 40.

Do you have a citation for this? Dryvax, the first generation smallpox vaccine, has more recently provided some protection against monkeypox when newly administered, but I am unaware of any studies into its effectiveness 40+ years after vaccination.

In the 2003 Wisconsin outbreak, 6 out of the 11 persons infected had received childhood smallpox vaccinations* (stopped 1972 in the USA). It is unknown how many were exposed to the agent, so, among much else, incidence in vaccinated and unvaccinated is unknown. Would be interesting if there was a larger study out there.

* https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa032299