"Our Cellar Selection"

Old Jun 17, 22, 1:07 pm
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"Our Cellar Selection"

My CW flight this week had a wine list where every white / red was from "Our Cellar Selection". Our Cellar Selection has gone from 1 of the 4 wines to now all 4.
A total random mix of Australia / South Africa / USA (most at about Ł5 a bottle), and a total range of production year (2018/19/20)
The quality of the Bordeaux / classic French reds has also taken a turn for the worse...and sometimes missing altogether.
Not so long ago, would have said the BA Club World wines were not half bad.

What is the point of offering a wine list if they dont know what actually print what wines they are going to offer?
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Old Jun 17, 22, 1:18 pm
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Family member who is Somellier for a 5 star hotel in Greece tried one of them last month. He told me that you will get better wines at LIDL. But, to be objective he did say that one red and one white in GF lounge are quite good. I am afraid I don’t remember which ones.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 2:23 pm
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Not much better in F. One of the whites is a cellar selection. The one red and white I could find reviews of by Jancis Robinson were given rubbish reviews. The champagne - LPGS - is very good! But overall you’ll find better wines on Air France business.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 2:58 pm
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As posted on the food thread I'll be sticking to shorts, beer, or champagne. Ł5 red is hopefully a thing of the past for me. Similar if I go to a restaurant were the mark ups are huge.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by ermis177 View Post
He told me that you will get better wines at LIDL.
I take your point and I assume this was meant as a slight on Lidl as well as BA, but Lidl are well known for their excellent selection of wine, and at a very varied price point. Although I confess the first time I bought a decent and fairly pricey wine from them it did seem somewhat counter-intuitive! Bargains to be had… (although none will beat the bargain this week at a restaurant in Prague…2016 Sassicaia at 40% less than UK retail. And, yes, it was ready to drink!)
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Originally Posted by TheJayHatch View Post
I take your point and I assume this was meant as a slight on Lidl as well as BA, but Lidl are well known for their excellent selection of wine, and at a very varied price point. Although I confess the first time I bought a decent and fairly pricey wine from them it did seem somewhat counter-intuitive! Bargains to be had…
Totally agree. I'm a bit of a wine snob (and also had a bit of oenology training in a previous life) and whilst there is plenty of bad wine at Lidl, there are also a few really interesting and sometimes very good bottles. In fact, I first went to Lidl because of a wine festival flyer I found from them, and that is still one of the things I look for when I go (with Lidl France having a much nicer selection than Lidl UK incidentally, but some interesting bottles at the latter too).
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BA has less than no clue about wine which is why you see the odd very laudable bottle spring up randomly in Costa coffee Galleries Club.

I also believe that they used to know rather a lot about wine and the exciting drops we are teased with are vestiges of the halcyon days.
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So which are the really good ones at Lidl? Enquiring minds wish to know!
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Old Jun 18, 22, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by choosethedrew View Post
BA has less than no clue about wine which is why you see the odd very laudable bottle spring up randomly in Costa coffee Galleries Club.

I also believe that they used to know rather a lot about wine and the exciting drops we are teased with are vestiges of the halcyon days.
Yes, Chateau Batailley Pauillac being served in North Galleries today. Approx Ł60 a bottle RRP.
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Yes, Chateau Batailley Pauillac being served in North Galleries today. Approx Ł60 a bottle RRP.
Well that’s the most acute demonstration I’ve seen of no-one having a clue which wine should feature where. Not that I begrudge any lucky visitors to that lounge today, BA customers of late deserve some special treatment, but I would be staggered if the airline is buying such wines these days, so the limited stock should be deployed a little more appropriately - in my view.
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Yes, Chateau Batailley Pauillac being served in North Galleries today. Approx Ł60 a bottle RRP.
Had that in F in March, may divert to galleries north on tuesday instead of the F Lounge while Mrs endo is shopping.
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Originally Posted by choosethedrew View Post
Well that’s the most acute demonstration I’ve seen of no-one having a clue which wine should feature where. Not that I begrudge any lucky visitors to that lounge today, BA customers of late deserve some special treatment, but I would be staggered if the airline is buying such wines these days, so the limited stock should be deployed a little more appropriately - in my view.
Quite. And most magnanimous of you - in my heady Gold days I would surely have been terribly chagrined to have been informed of such misallocation but nowadays…how the mighty have fallen etc etc
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Had that in F in March, may divert to galleries north on tuesday instead of the F Lounge while Mrs endo is shopping.
grab an empty (and hopefully clean) glass from your lounge first btw!
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Not sure if it's still the case, but a few years ago in training we were told that the lounges get whatever leftover stock of a cycle we have onboard (before being sold off in staff sales)- so not surprising that the lounge selection is a bit random, especially given supply chain issues I suppose it's whatever our suppliers can get their hands on at the moment.
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Originally Posted by TheJayHatch View Post
I take your point and I assume this was meant as a slight on Lidl as well as BA, but Lidl are well known for their excellent selection of wine, and at a very varied price point. Although I confess the first time I bought a decent and fairly pricey wine from them it did seem somewhat counter-intuitive! Bargains to be had… (although none will beat the bargain this week at a restaurant in Prague…2016 Sassicaia at 40% less than UK retail. And, yes, it was ready to drink!)
loads of fake sassicaia around, buyer be aware
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