BA15 [LHR-SIN] in reported ‘near miss’ incident over Turkey
Jun 16, 22, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Cris
So the only story here of this non-story is how/why the ATC could not/did not see BA on the radar?
Jun 16, 22, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by HIDDY View Post
Pity Boy George wasn't on the flight
Pity Boy George wasn't on the flight
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That one's gone right over my head!
Jun 16, 22, 3:56 pm
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I had a near miss once at Heathrow T5 which gave me a slight fright.
I was in the
CCR1 - Floor level 1
and was heading out with the intention to go along and down the escalators to catch my flight when suddenly out of the corner of my eye I saw a Silver card holder on the same trajectory as me coming down at a rapid speed from Floor Level 2 from GCS.
Thankfully, I took a wide separation to the standard 2-3 metres separation required amongst status holders to avoid actual physical contact but..... it was a close one
(This is in jest just to confirm any doubts!)
I was in the
CCR1 - Floor level 1
and was heading out with the intention to go along and down the escalators to catch my flight when suddenly out of the corner of my eye I saw a Silver card holder on the same trajectory as me coming down at a rapid speed from Floor Level 2 from GCS.
Thankfully, I took a wide separation to the standard 2-3 metres separation required amongst status holders to avoid actual physical contact but..... it was a close one
(This is in jest just to confirm any doubts!)
Jun 16, 22, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Cris
So the only story here of this non-story is how/why the ATC could not/did not see BA on the radar?
Jun 16, 22, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by PETER01
I had a near miss once at Heathrow T5 which gave me a slight fright.
I was in the
CCR1 - Floor level 1
and was heading out with the intention to go along and down the escalators to catch my flight when suddenly out of the corner of my eye I saw a Silver card holder on the same trajectory as me coming down at a rapid speed from Floor Level 2 from GCS.
Thankfully, I took a wide separation to the standard 2-3 metres separation required amongst status holders to avoid actual physical contact but..... it was a close one
(This is in jest just to confirm any doubts!)
I was in the
CCR1 - Floor level 1
and was heading out with the intention to go along and down the escalators to catch my flight when suddenly out of the corner of my eye I saw a Silver card holder on the same trajectory as me coming down at a rapid speed from Floor Level 2 from GCS.
Thankfully, I took a wide separation to the standard 2-3 metres separation required amongst status holders to avoid actual physical contact but..... it was a close one
(This is in jest just to confirm any doubts!)
Jun 16, 22, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by fluffymitten
I always find the term 'near miss' interesting.
If you nearly miss something, that suggests you intended to hit it. We really should be saying 'near hit' which is a more accurate description of what nearly happened.
If you nearly miss something, that suggests you intended to hit it. We really should be saying 'near hit' which is a more accurate description of what nearly happened.
It was a miss, but it was near to being a hit. makes send to me either way
Jun 16, 22, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by fluffymitten
I always find the term 'near miss' interesting.
If you nearly miss something, that suggests you intended to hit it. We really should be saying 'near hit' which is a more accurate description of what nearly happened.
If you nearly miss something, that suggests you intended to hit it. We really should be saying 'near hit' which is a more accurate description of what nearly happened.
Jun 16, 22, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by PETER01
I had a near miss once at Heathrow T5 which gave me a slight fright.
I was in the
CCR1 - Floor level 1
and was heading out with the intention to go along and down the escalators to catch my flight when suddenly out of the corner of my eye I saw a Silver card holder on the same trajectory as me coming down at a rapid speed from Floor Level 2 from GCS.
Thankfully, I took a wide separation to the standard 2-3 metres separation required amongst status holders to avoid actual physical contact but..... it was a close one
(This is in jest just to confirm any doubts!)
I was in the
CCR1 - Floor level 1
and was heading out with the intention to go along and down the escalators to catch my flight when suddenly out of the corner of my eye I saw a Silver card holder on the same trajectory as me coming down at a rapid speed from Floor Level 2 from GCS.
Thankfully, I took a wide separation to the standard 2-3 metres separation required amongst status holders to avoid actual physical contact but..... it was a close one
(This is in jest just to confirm any doubts!)
If anybody wants to read my 10,000 word manifesto on how BA needs more red carpets, rose petals and trumpets to accompany CCR card holders it’s available at…
Jun 16, 22, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by lorcancoyle
shocking, everyone knows the lower status cardholder is obliged to take the evasive action
Jun 17, 22, 1:41 am
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Originally Posted by flatlander
Seems like "an incident", but perhaps not a "serious incident" ?
And there are a lot of "incidents" we never hear about. Even fairly minor things can be classed as an incident (and I wouldn't consider this minor - if the UL had followed the climb instruction, both aircraft might have had their TCAS activate and tell them to take sudden action, and no-one wants that if they can avoid it).
And there are a lot of "incidents" we never hear about. Even fairly minor things can be classed as an incident (and I wouldn't consider this minor - if the UL had followed the climb instruction, both aircraft might have had their TCAS activate and tell them to take sudden action, and no-one wants that if they can avoid it).
It is not a harsh or violent thing, even a reversal where the TCAS advises a greater degree of climb or descent is typically 2000-2500 fpm which would be quite normal in the lower to mid levels and perfectly normal for a descent at upper levels.
I agree we don't want to do a TCAS manoeuvre if possible, but please don't think it is harsh or violent action. Most people onboard would not even notice it happening.
As an aside most minibus aircraft are being fitted with AutoTCAS where the machine flies the manoevre, at least the initial bits.
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Jun 17, 22, 2:19 am
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Jun 17, 22, 2:53 am
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Originally Posted by Waterhorse
As an aside most minibus aircraft are being fitted with AutoTCAS where the machine flies the manoevre, at least the initial bits.
