LHR. NCE - no bags being taken
#61
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On LHR to NAP today. Blanket rule of checking in all economy passenger bags - no exceptions based on status or boarding group. We were relatively early to the gate as well.
On the aircraft now (delayed as cabin crew arrived late) and overheads have ample space.
Simply absurd that this is happening when we are seeing reports such as this of flights taking off without checked bags. I can see from Twitter that a flight to TLS yesterday also took off without bags.
I understand that on full flights you often run out of overhead space, but surely they should be trying to maximize use of the cabin in the context of flights taking off without checked bags! The American carriers all seem to manage it.
On the aircraft now (delayed as cabin crew arrived late) and overheads have ample space.
Simply absurd that this is happening when we are seeing reports such as this of flights taking off without checked bags. I can see from Twitter that a flight to TLS yesterday also took off without bags.
I understand that on full flights you often run out of overhead space, but surely they should be trying to maximize use of the cabin in the context of flights taking off without checked bags! The American carriers all seem to manage it.
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On LHR to NAP today. Blanket rule of checking in all economy passenger bags - no exceptions based on status or boarding group. We were relatively early to the gate as well.
On the aircraft now (delayed as cabin crew arrived late) and overheads have ample space.
Simply absurd that this is happening when we are seeing reports such as this of flights taking off without checked bags. I can see from Twitter that a flight to TLS yesterday also took off without bags.
I understand that on full flights you often run out of overhead space, but surely they should be trying to maximize use of the cabin in the context of flights taking off without checked bags! The American carriers all seem to manage it.
On the aircraft now (delayed as cabin crew arrived late) and overheads have ample space.
Simply absurd that this is happening when we are seeing reports such as this of flights taking off without checked bags. I can see from Twitter that a flight to TLS yesterday also took off without bags.
I understand that on full flights you often run out of overhead space, but surely they should be trying to maximize use of the cabin in the context of flights taking off without checked bags! The American carriers all seem to manage it.
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Edit: I see it has been beautifully explained by jumbodriver and Waterhorse upthread- thanks, we love you!
#64
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Granted it can get a bit cosy in the overhead bins on the E190, but the result was they they were empty.
I am on a LCY-NCE next week, and my cabin bag will, on purpose, be something that is completely unsuitable for the hold.
ETA: the LCY-ZRH was also completely full but they were more sensible and only checked in a few of the largest cabin bags
Last edited by Irreverent Medusa; Apr 15, 2022 at 6:05 am
#66
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I’ve only flown Ryan Air twice and both times were hideous. Yes, they were efficient and on time and we followed all of the rules so weren’t hassled about baggage but it was a truly dispiriting experience with staff who’ve got the whole company ethos of hate the self loading freight down to a tee
1. Gets you to your destination on the day and the time that their timetable states.
2. Your luggage arrives on the same flight as you.
3. They do 1) and 2) consistently.
I often think 99% of the problem when folks criticise LCCs is they happily pay the £9.99 fares - but have expectations of a legacy full-service carrier?
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With BA it's :
- Queue up when the screens say boarding
- Wait 30 minutes until the they actually start boarding
- Arse around for another 30 minutes while they sort out everyones bags
- Wait for a bit longer for no fathomable reason
- Push back and the queue 30 minutes waiting to take off (at LHR)
- Land an hour late
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- Queue up when the screens say boarding
- Wait 30 minutes until the they actually start boarding
- Arse around for another 30 minutes while they sort out everyones bags
- Wait for a bit longer for no fathomable reason
- Push back and the queue 30 minutes waiting to take off (at LHR)
- Land an hour late
- Wait 30 minutes until the they actually start boarding
- Arse around for another 30 minutes while they sort out everyones bags
- Wait for a bit longer for no fathomable reason
- Push back and the queue 30 minutes waiting to take off (at LHR)
- Land an hour late
#69
Join Date: Oct 2019
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Quick question re. Bags not being loaded.
I have a positioning flight to CDG on Monday before doing a CDG-LHR-LAS trip the next day.
now if my bags don't make the original CDG trip can I get BA to deliver them to my hotel in Vegas or am I S.O.L and will have to have them waiting for me when I get back to CDG in a weeks time?
I have a positioning flight to CDG on Monday before doing a CDG-LHR-LAS trip the next day.
now if my bags don't make the original CDG trip can I get BA to deliver them to my hotel in Vegas or am I S.O.L and will have to have them waiting for me when I get back to CDG in a weeks time?
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With BA it's :
- Queue up when the screens say boarding
- Wait 30 minutes until the they actually start boarding
- Arse around for another 30 minutes while they sort out everyones bags
- Wait for a bit longer for no fathomable reason
- Push back and the queue 30 minutes waiting to take off (at LHR)
- Land an hour late
- Queue up when the screens say boarding
- Wait 30 minutes until the they actually start boarding
- Arse around for another 30 minutes while they sort out everyones bags
- Wait for a bit longer for no fathomable reason
- Push back and the queue 30 minutes waiting to take off (at LHR)
- Land an hour late
it’s only this year that I have experienced issues and quite specifically what I reproach ba is that whilst many flights are still totally fine, they have not, in my view, done enough to be able to mitigate any random issue whenever it occurs, so if there are a any hiccup, instead of being “absorbed” by the system with some successful resilience, it turns, instead, into chaos.
so whilst I realise others have different opinions, my qualm s not with ba’s routine operations in hi guys I personally consider fine, but rather for their ineffective contingency planning. They remind me of those people who are always late and not invariably tell you that they left at the last minute but should have been on time by their calculations if all the lights had been green, they had found a parking space right away and it had not rained. Well, sometimes on a 1 hour trip, you will get a red light and I find it rather nuts to plan to function only if you don’t and provided the sun is always shining in London.
in this case, the red lights are staff being infected by a pandemic which was not expected to have ended and the rain is it. Fix the problems that are within your responsibility (it) or define protocols that will enable you to better function when they occur (or both). We are all affected by the difficult current context and I find it unfair and unprofessional to expect customers (and for that matter staff on leave) to act as insurers for BA.
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#73
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On my BER from LCY yesterday, which was almost completely full (in J at any rate) they said they needed ten volunteers to check their hand baggage in, with the usual bribe of priority boarding. Tis seem to me sensible: presumably someone has worked out an algorithm for calculating on average the ratio of booked economy passengers to overhead space available (it would be overhead as they only asked for wheelie suitcases).
#74
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That's all that matters surely? I don't take a SH flight for any kind of "experience", nor does it either make my day or ruin it if the CC don't smile. The most important thing is surely an airline that:
1. Gets you to your destination on the day and the time that their timetable states.
2. Your luggage arrives on the same flight as you.
3. They do 1) and 2) consistently.
I often think 99% of the problem when folks criticise LCCs is they happily pay the £9.99 fares - but have expectations of a legacy full-service carrier?
1. Gets you to your destination on the day and the time that their timetable states.
2. Your luggage arrives on the same flight as you.
3. They do 1) and 2) consistently.
I often think 99% of the problem when folks criticise LCCs is they happily pay the £9.99 fares - but have expectations of a legacy full-service carrier?
You obviously don’t mind being scowled at - I do! As my post stated EasyJet were delightful. No frills and I didn’t expect them but just a pleasant demeanour. I’m happy not to have full service if I haven’t paid for it; that was not what my post was about.
Anyhow this is all OT.
#75
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On my BER from LCY yesterday, which was almost completely full (in J at any rate) they said they needed ten volunteers to check their hand baggage in, with the usual bribe of priority boarding. Tis seem to me sensible: presumably someone has worked out an algorithm for calculating on average the ratio of booked economy passengers to overhead space available (it would be overhead as they only asked for wheelie suitcases).
Baffling as to why anyone thinks that is an acceptable trade-off, particularly at the moment when you run the real risk of having to wait very extended periods to get your luggage back at LHR
Last edited by BOH; Apr 15, 2022 at 7:55 am Reason: Typos