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Canít check in due to incorrect first name

Old Apr 8, 22, 8:58 am
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Canít check in due to incorrect first name

My daughter is currently at LHR trying to check in for AY/Ba flight to SYD. She got the ticket through a travel agent (I know the advice is always not to do this!!) who have put her first name on the ticket as MISSCLAIRELOUISE when she is Miss Claire Louise. The AY check in desk wonít check her in until the travel agent changes this. The agent says if she was just flying to HEL it would be fine but The Australian authorities are stricter so she wonít let her fly until it is changed. The final leg is BA SIN to SYD. She is trying to sort this now with the travel agent. Does this sound right that she canít fly? It is fairly obvious that the name is correct!
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Old Apr 8, 22, 9:02 am
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I'll put this down to an over-fussy check-in agent on the AY desk (so dnata I think). I don't think I've ever had a full alignment between passport name and ticket name going to Australia, often my (incorrect) title gets duplicated or triplicated, when I never use a title if I can avoid it. I'm amazed they even noticed at check-in, did your daugher draw their attention to it?
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Old Apr 8, 22, 9:05 am
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I'll put this down to an over-fussy check-in agent on the AY desk (so dnata I think). I don't think I've ever had a full alignment between passport name and ticket name going to Australia, often my (incorrect) title gets duplicated or triplicated, when I never use a title if I can avoid it. I'm amazed they even noticed at check-in, did your daugher draw their attention to it?
No, I am sure she would not have drawn attention to it! If she has no luck with travel agent I might suggest she walks away and tries again with different check in agent (assuming there is more than 1!)
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Old Apr 8, 22, 9:23 am
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Probably that would be a good idea. Otherwise try to call a supervisor. Many times this is done because some systems has limitation how many character you can put in certain fields. The checkin agent would have been able to sort this out. She could try the airport ticketing desk if any.
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Old Apr 8, 22, 9:26 am
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Is Louise actually a middle name? If so then in future travel just leave it out, it would hardly stand out as much. But I still think that this is perfectly fine for check in purposes. Is there no way she can do some sort of online check-in? It's just bonkers because almost certainly the travel agent can insert the spaces but by the time it gets through GDS they will get removed.

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Old Apr 8, 22, 9:36 am
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Thanks for all your advice. It sounds as though it is sorted. The travel agent tried to charge 1000 dollars to make the change but it sounds like in the end the check in agent was able to make the change and I think she is currently getting checked in!

Louise is a middle name and will definitely consider leaving middle names out in future.

Thanks again to this amazing community for the support and advice!!!
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Old Apr 8, 22, 10:01 am
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Just travel as first name and family name. I haven't found a single reason to use a middle name, many people don't have one anyway.
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Old Apr 8, 22, 10:14 am
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The salutation should be dropped, but FirstMiddle is otherwise common. ANA, in fact, requires it if using a middle name.
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Old Apr 8, 22, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by HSR1234 View Post
My daughter is currently at LHR trying to check in for AY/Ba flight to SYD. She got the ticket through a travel agent (I know the advice is always not to do this!!) who have put her first name on the ticket as MISSCLAIRELOUISE when she is Miss Claire Louise. The AY check in desk wonít check her in until the travel agent changes this. The agent says if she was just flying to HEL it would be fine but The Australian authorities are stricter so she wonít let her fly until it is changed. The final leg is BA SIN to SYD. She is trying to sort this now with the travel agent. Does this sound right that she canít fly? It is fairly obvious that the name is correct!
Dont even think this is an error it just happens sonetimes with long names unless they actually entered miss as part of the first name instead of title.
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Old Apr 8, 22, 12:06 pm
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The Mrs has FirstMiddle Maiden5 as her name and hasn't had any problems except for when the Swiss government decided that she had to have my name of 5 added to the end.
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Old Apr 8, 22, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
Is Louise actually a middle name? If so then in future travel just leave it out, it would hardly stand out as much. But I still think that this is perfectly fine for check in purposes. Is there no way she can do some sort of online check-in? It's just bonkers because almost certainly the travel agent can insert the spaces but by the time it gets through GDS they will get removed.

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Originally Posted by Anonba View Post
Dont even think this is an error it just happens sometimes with long names unless they actually entered miss as part of the first name instead of title.
To space or not to space, that is the question. And yes, some GDS flavours or airlines automatically remove any spaces anyway- for example UA: I could enter LAST NAME III/FIRST MIDDLE MISS in Amadeus and see that in the Amadeus PNR - but the UA PNR, and Amadeus issued ticket, will show LASTNAMEIII/FIRSTMIDDLEMISS. No spaces for UA. Ever.

The PNR in the OP should have been perfectly fine, with any variation of:
LASTNAME/CLAIRELOUISEMISS
LASTNAME/CLAIRELOUISE MISS
LASTNAME/CLAIRE LOUISE MISS
LASTNAME/CLAIRE MISS
LASTNAME/CLAIREMISS
LASTNAME/CLAIRE

Hopefully it wasn't literally LASTNAME/MISSCLAIRELOUISE as that really would have been wrong.


It all comes down to airlines having limited fields to store name information:

$LASTNAME
$FIRSTNAME

Öwhich are always paired and stored as LASTNAME/FIRSTNAME

The bare minimum data needed for these fields are those values from the passport/ID. The simpler the better.

If someone really wants to enter LASTNAMEJUNIOR/FIRSTMIDDLETHIRD TITLE they can, but it really isn't needed and can cause problems. The extra stuff can go in $SSRDOCS which is where Advance Passenger Information goes (immigration, US secure flight, etc.) and looks like:

SRDOCSBAHK1-----01AUG82-M--LASTNAME-FIRST-MIDDLES

or, with passport:

SRDOCSBAHK1-P-GBR-123459789-GBR-01AUG82-M-01JAN30-LASTNAME-FIRST-MIDDLES

Öand ALL of this is sent to the airlines and immigration authorities as:


$SSRDOCS/$LASTNAME/$FIRSTNAME


Originally Posted by thatmikereed View Post
The salutation should be dropped, but FirstMiddle is otherwise common. ANA, in fact, requires it if using a middle name.
CX is another airline that require the middle name, and they want it in the $FIRSTNAME field. Awkward, as BA doesn't usually collect itÖEven if it is stored within $SSRDOCS in a profile, Amadeus doesn't use that data to populate $FIRSTNAME.


Salutations are fine, and really don't affect anything (as long as not entered before the names).

I actually prefer seeing titles; it's more courteous, and staff know whether to address you as Mr. Reed, Mx. Reed, Dr. Reed or Sir Mike... (I didn't spend 6 years in Evil Medical School to be called *Mr* Evil.)
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Old Apr 8, 22, 4:36 pm
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I would avoid putting a middle name, but I’ve also booked enough flights for Latin American friends who have two last names (and if you leave one off, then the name doesn’t match the passport…….) But it also happens that people less tuned into family names mistake the first surname for a “middle name”

As for titles, I’ve also had “Mrs” auto-populate more than once without me picking a title… but thankfully for my gentleman friend who was flying, the title/gender did not interfere with his travel.
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