damaged suitcase - "20% annual depreciation" question
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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damaged suitcase - "20% annual depreciation" question
My suitcase arrived damaged after a recent BA flight (cracks in hard shell). As usual, BA is using K2 for baggage issues. K2 tells me that if the suitcase is 2 years old, I need to discount 20% of the original value per year - so they can give me 60%... What's ironic is that the suitcase that got damaged was already a replacement suitcase from BA for an identical one that got damaged 2 years ago (when I also heard the 20% mantra from K2...).
Has anyone tried to challenge this?
This is extremely frustrating - I obviously wouldn't be changing my suitcase every two years if it hadn't been for BA damaging it... Annoying if I need to make a 40% co-pay every time. Suitcase wasn't brand new, yes, but was otherwise perfectly fine and I would keep using it!
Has anyone tried to challenge this?
This is extremely frustrating - I obviously wouldn't be changing my suitcase every two years if it hadn't been for BA damaging it... Annoying if I need to make a 40% co-pay every time. Suitcase wasn't brand new, yes, but was otherwise perfectly fine and I would keep using it!
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#6
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I've got bags that are 20+ years old. I'm now scared that if BA lost one, I'd end up with a bill from them to replace it!
So no, I think 20% per year is excessive. I bet a lot of decent luggage brands guarantee their products for more than 5 years as well...
So no, I think 20% per year is excessive. I bet a lot of decent luggage brands guarantee their products for more than 5 years as well...
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#9
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Times have really changed. I remember some 17 years ago or so, when still living in US, bag arrived late, was delivered to house and damaged. Reported it to BA, local office (IAD) called, asked what brand, type of suitcase - next morning a new suitcase was delivered.
#11
Join Date: Jan 2010
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It's outrageous and last time they tried this on me, IIRC, it was 10% per year.
Some of K2's policies are dictated by the airline, so worth asking if it is a K2 or BA policy, and then proceed from there.
There is nothing that requires you, ultimately, to deal with K2.
Some of K2's policies are dictated by the airline, so worth asking if it is a K2 or BA policy, and then proceed from there.
There is nothing that requires you, ultimately, to deal with K2.
#12
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Even if 20% per year depreciation is accepted, it should be applied to the residual value at the end of each year. (Compound interest rather than simple interest.) After 2 years the residual value should be 64% of the original price, rather than 60%; after three years 51.2% rather than 40%.
Of course the 20% base rate is ridiculously high. I have one suitcase that has supported my travels at Silver-maintaining levels for over 20 years and is capable for going on for a few years yet.
Of course the 20% base rate is ridiculously high. I have one suitcase that has supported my travels at Silver-maintaining levels for over 20 years and is capable for going on for a few years yet.
#14
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Briggs and Riley. It costs a lot, but it has a lifetime warranty with no questions asked on how it got damaged. I'd freaking lose my mind if BA tried to claim depreciation on my luggage.
#15
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: CA, USA.
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Montreal convention (art. 26) does not allow to fix a lower list of compensation
My understanding is that BA is not allowed to downgrade the compensation on damaged luggage. In article 26 of the Montreal convention is stated:
Article 26 Invalidity of Contractual ProvisionsAny provision tending to relieve the carrier of liability or to fix a lower limit than that which is laid down in this Convention shall be null and void, but the nullity of any such provision does not involve the nullity of the whole contract, which shall remain subject to the provisions of this Convention.
Article 26 Invalidity of Contractual ProvisionsAny provision tending to relieve the carrier of liability or to fix a lower limit than that which is laid down in this Convention shall be null and void, but the nullity of any such provision does not involve the nullity of the whole contract, which shall remain subject to the provisions of this Convention.