Mar 16, 2022, 3:26 pm
Barclaycard Avios and Avios Plus credit cards
Feb 28, 2022, 3:21 am
#32
Join Date: May 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 320
If I have another Barclaycard that I've had for 8 years, just sitting there - it's tough to close it - good for my credit rating - so are we sure no existing Barclaycard holder will be able to get the welcome bonus if they switch to / open this card?
Feb 28, 2022, 3:48 am
#34
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,806
I am tempted by the new Barclaycard Premium card but was rather put off by paying £12 a month for premier banking Barclays Avios Rewards and then an extra £20 a month for the Barclaycard Avios Plus Card, then noticed this which does soften the blow somewhat:
Collect even more Avios with Premier Banking
If you open this Barclaycard for £20 a month and switch on Barclays Avios Rewards as a Premier banking customer for £12 a month, we’ll give you £5 back into your current account every month. T&Cs apply.
If you open this Barclaycard for £20 a month and switch on Barclays Avios Rewards as a Premier banking customer for £12 a month, we’ll give you £5 back into your current account every month. T&Cs apply.
Feb 28, 2022, 4:28 am
#36
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
I don't think so, with HSBC I think that's an additional benefit for the fee. The WE privileges as best I've found means getting a status with either Hertz or Avis, can't remember which, but it meaningfully counts for nothing. Those lounges passes are very poor for UK lounges, so often you're told that lounge is at capacity so no entrance.
Feb 28, 2022, 6:19 am
#37
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: VIC, Australia
Programs: QF WP, SQ & VA Gold, IHG Spire AMB, HH Diamond + BA, AA, CX
Posts: 126
Exactly this. I don't think I could justify giving it up, it's free and if you go by the nominal values we tend to use then yes, the Avios is worth more than the 2x HH, but having HH points opens up opportunities that Avios doesn't, and it is possible to get outsize value, just as it is with Avios. And yeah, there's always the VS cards with the VS to HH transfer option, but it's not as good unless you have the paid card.
Feb 28, 2022, 6:25 am
#38
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA, VS, HH, IHG, MB, MR
Posts: 26,871
Except .... when a 100% bonus is running, you can buy Hilton points for just under 0.4p.
Avios, in the worse case scenario, can be cashed out via Nectar for 0.8p.
You could use the Avios for supermarket shopping via Nectar, use the money you save to buy the same number of Hilton points you'd have got from the Hilton card, and you get the BA upgrade voucher on top.
Avios, in the worse case scenario, can be cashed out via Nectar for 0.8p.
You could use the Avios for supermarket shopping via Nectar, use the money you save to buy the same number of Hilton points you'd have got from the Hilton card, and you get the BA upgrade voucher on top.
Feb 28, 2022, 7:22 am
#40
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: London
Programs: BAEC, QRPC, Amex MR, World of Hyatt, IHG one rewards, Hilton Honors, Marriott Bonvoy, etc…
Posts: 685
I don't think so, with HSBC I think that's an additional benefit for the fee. The WE privileges as best I've found means getting a status with either Hertz or Avis, can't remember which, but it meaningfully counts for nothing. Those lounges passes are very poor for UK lounges, so often you're told that lounge is at capacity so no entrance.
HSBC Card has the Lounge access, Rewards earning and you do get status (the 6 digits bin number needs to be approved by MasterCard) with both Avis and Hertz, as well as National and Sixt.
Feb 28, 2022, 8:15 am
#41
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 737
Feb 28, 2022, 9:14 am
#42
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: BA Bronze, Hilton Gold, IHG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 454
I've got the premier rewards current account and the premium card would have become my primary card for all spend.
However, I just can't give up my Hilton Honors card and the free breakfast etc I get from Gold status.
However, I just can't give up my Hilton Honors card and the free breakfast etc I get from Gold status.
Feb 28, 2022, 9:43 am
#43
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond *, IHG, Couples Romance Rewards
Posts: 2,350
Doesn't look anything like as good value as an ba Amex unless you are a single traveller.
using new amex companion voucher saves 100's of thousands of avios, allows booking into F etc. for 22 a month. Only advantage I can see is its a visa so may be accepted in more places.
using new amex companion voucher saves 100's of thousands of avios, allows booking into F etc. for 22 a month. Only advantage I can see is its a visa so may be accepted in more places.
Feb 28, 2022, 9:52 am
#44
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,327
Except .... when a 100% bonus is running, you can buy Hilton points for just under 0.4p.
Avios, in the worse case scenario, can be cashed out via Nectar for 0.8p.
You could use the Avios for supermarket shopping via Nectar, use the money you save to buy the same number of Hilton points you'd have got from the Hilton card, and you get the BA upgrade voucher on top.
Avios, in the worse case scenario, can be cashed out via Nectar for 0.8p.
You could use the Avios for supermarket shopping via Nectar, use the money you save to buy the same number of Hilton points you'd have got from the Hilton card, and you get the BA upgrade voucher on top.
No-one with this card should be applying for the premium Avios card as no sign up bonus means you're paying £240 for 5k Avios and the opportunity to earn the voucher at £10k spend instead of £20k. So using your 0.4p and 0.8p values above you're getting 1 Avios per £ on the BC (0.8p) and 2 HH on the HH BC (2 x 0.4p = 0.8p). Factor in the additional points on Hilton bookings, any benefits earned from the gold status, and the fact Avios are easily earned over at Amex, to me it makes more sense to stick with the Hilton seeing as you can change your mind anytime and apply for this new Avios one, but you will NEVER be able to get that Hilton card back.
Feb 28, 2022, 10:33 am
#45
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: London
Programs: BAEC, QRPC, Amex MR, World of Hyatt, IHG one rewards, Hilton Honors, Marriott Bonvoy, etc…
Posts: 685
I do have the HH card that I have retained as it gives an automatic Silver Status (useless everywhere but for East Africa where I use it every other year and always get a room upgrade, also got upgraded to a mini suite in Venice years ago). How do you guys get Gold status from the Card?