High-flying barrister, 41, and his family are removed from BA flight at Heathrow
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I’m in the same camp with 300 being an easily achievable number. One of my ex coworkers is Italian and said when she flies back to Italy the whole family come and meet her at the airport. This normally spans the generations from granny down to babies/toddlers and in her case 10 people would be in the arrivals area waiting.
As an aside I know a barrister who was flying that day with their family. I was therefore a little apprehensive when I first opened this thread. It wasn’t them
As an aside I know a barrister who was flying that day with their family. I was therefore a little apprehensive when I first opened this thread. It wasn’t them
So I still think that the tweet exaggerates the knock-on effect to 300 other people of BA’s overbooking… but I’ll acknowledge that it can be easy that 300 people were inconvenienced, even if only very few “[missed] transfers and connections”
By the way, I wouldn’t say that ten people waiting at TRN for the same people are “ten missed transfers or connections” but I would agree that it’s ten people waiting around and who wouldn’t be except this overbooking by BA and the subsequent chaos that ensued with a barrister who should have known when to hang up the fancy hairpiece.
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One of the EC261 "rules" is :-
(9) The number of passengers denied boarding against their will should be reduced by requiring air carriers to call for volunteers to surrender their reservations, in exchange for benefits, instead of denying passengers boarding, and by fully compensating those finally denied boarding.
I wonder if that happened (or ever happens!). That would have been one way for BA to "manage" the situation.
(9) The number of passengers denied boarding against their will should be reduced by requiring air carriers to call for volunteers to surrender their reservations, in exchange for benefits, instead of denying passengers boarding, and by fully compensating those finally denied boarding.
I wonder if that happened (or ever happens!). That would have been one way for BA to "manage" the situation.
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The tweet I referred to said “caused 300 people to miss transfers and connections” - it didn’t just say “300 people to be inconvenienced…”
So I still think that the tweet exaggerates the knock-on effect to 300 other people of BA’s overbooking… but I’ll acknowledge that it can be easy that 300 people were inconvenienced, even if only very few “[missed] transfers and connections”
By the way, I wouldn’t say that ten people waiting at TRN for the same people are “ten missed transfers or connections” but I would agree that it’s ten people waiting around and who wouldn’t be except this overbooking by BA and the subsequent chaos that ensued with a barrister who should have known when to hang up the fancy hairpiece.
So I still think that the tweet exaggerates the knock-on effect to 300 other people of BA’s overbooking… but I’ll acknowledge that it can be easy that 300 people were inconvenienced, even if only very few “[missed] transfers and connections”
By the way, I wouldn’t say that ten people waiting at TRN for the same people are “ten missed transfers or connections” but I would agree that it’s ten people waiting around and who wouldn’t be except this overbooking by BA and the subsequent chaos that ensued with a barrister who should have known when to hang up the fancy hairpiece.
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Okay, the choice of wording is nonsense, not the overall number.
300 actual people were likely inconvenienced to some degree - perhaps even more.
But to describe it as 300 missed connections and transfers (by transfer, do you just mean a fancy taxi? Book another one!)
As I mentioned way up-thread, had I been in a similar predicament, I’d have probably moved to the seat in Eurotraveller in the best interest of the bigger picture with respect to both family and a planeload of people.
But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t have gotten upset that I was forced to sit between two strangers in ET (during a global pandemic) when there’s a blocked seat in CE, next to my wife, and that I would have paid for a seat in the CE cabin that wasn’t offered.
But I’m not a barrister, I’m an engineer. I would have made my decision strictly on the basis of the calculus of how things were likely to work out. So I would have sucked it up as the one who had to fly ET whilst paying for 5 CE seats, and raised the fuss later.
300 actual people were likely inconvenienced to some degree - perhaps even more.
But to describe it as 300 missed connections and transfers (by transfer, do you just mean a fancy taxi? Book another one!)
As I mentioned way up-thread, had I been in a similar predicament, I’d have probably moved to the seat in Eurotraveller in the best interest of the bigger picture with respect to both family and a planeload of people.
But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t have gotten upset that I was forced to sit between two strangers in ET (during a global pandemic) when there’s a blocked seat in CE, next to my wife, and that I would have paid for a seat in the CE cabin that wasn’t offered.
But I’m not a barrister, I’m an engineer. I would have made my decision strictly on the basis of the calculus of how things were likely to work out. So I would have sucked it up as the one who had to fly ET whilst paying for 5 CE seats, and raised the fuss later.
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Again; 300 people missing onward connections on flights and ground transfers isn’t an infeasible situation as most people don’t finish their journey at an arrival airport - they travel onward to a final destination via multiple means, many using pre-booked ground transfers.
In the end, this was also a situation of BA’s decision, so by that logic, all 300 people should have been offered, at the least, a transport voucher courtesy of BA, as it was BA (apparently) who chose to return to stand.
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True - but maybe BA could have asked for volunteers who'd be prepared to accept a cash payment for the downgrade.
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You’re missing the subtle but clever humour from T8191 here.144 is generally called a Gross Grocery / Gross « The Word Detective
I am thankful that my lesson wasn’t as bitter a pill to swallow as the one our learned friend is likely experiencing
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You’re assuming 100% of passengers on two fully packed flights would do this… quite a bold assumption.
In the end, this was also a situation of BA’s decision, so by that logic, all 300 people should have been offered, at the least, a transport voucher courtesy of BA.
I doubt BA really saw it that way.
In the end, this was also a situation of BA’s decision, so by that logic, all 300 people should have been offered, at the least, a transport voucher courtesy of BA.
I doubt BA really saw it that way.
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You’re missing the subtle but clever humour from T8191 here.144 is generally called a Gross Grocery / Gross « The Word Detective
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To add to the Thread diversion, there's a very old RAF joke.
"What you call gross ignorance?"
"144 Navigators!"
"Why 144?" asked a Navigator.
"What you call gross ignorance?"
"144 Navigators!"
"Why 144?" asked a Navigator.
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In any case that's if the downgrade is true, and that the nanny wasn't booked in economy to start with, as per other sources not reported in the media.