Thought cleaning was supposed to improve becasue of Covid?.
Feb 2, 2022, 6:40 am
#18
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We flew back from JNB on Saturday and I found a pair of used socks and a wrapper in the stowage drawer in CW. Staff member was visibly embarrassed when I passed them to her…
as an aside, it was so good to get back onto an A380, so much better than the crappy old 777 that took us down there.
as an aside, it was so good to get back onto an A380, so much better than the crappy old 777 that took us down there.
Feb 2, 2022, 7:41 am
#22
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Feb 2, 2022, 2:08 pm
#23
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Flew over to JFK on the 173 yesterday. Won't go into the details of the flight, which was, bar what I'm about to talk about, pretty good (though there was a difference in style between the two main crew serving us in F, not that I minded), and they had to source a pork from J for the chap sitting next to me....
What I was horrified to see was what greeted me when I opened the suite door to put my coat away:
A used SOCK!!. Plus headphones at the back!. Surely the cleaning (considering it is said the plane had been 'thouroughly disinfected'), should pick up this sort of thing as a matter of course. Fortunately a cleaning towel was available to pick it up and dispose of it.
But that wasn't it. The footrest was hiding more:
OK, so it was only a slipper wrapper, but even so, this really isn't good enough on an aircraft in the time of covid, all the worse it was in F. The crew were suitably horrified by the fact that this had happened. I was concerned what else we might find, but fortunately that was it.
/rant
What I was horrified to see was what greeted me when I opened the suite door to put my coat away:
A used SOCK!!. Plus headphones at the back!. Surely the cleaning (considering it is said the plane had been 'thouroughly disinfected'), should pick up this sort of thing as a matter of course. Fortunately a cleaning towel was available to pick it up and dispose of it.
But that wasn't it. The footrest was hiding more:
OK, so it was only a slipper wrapper, but even so, this really isn't good enough on an aircraft in the time of covid, all the worse it was in F. The crew were suitably horrified by the fact that this had happened. I was concerned what else we might find, but fortunately that was it.
/rant
Feb 4, 2022, 2:47 am
#25
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Maybe a dedicated sticky thread could be set up so everyone can post their pictures of filthy BA cabins/seats/toilets/lounges and we can monitor if there are improvements over the years (doubtful).
Might concentrate management minds too if they happen across it!
Might concentrate management minds too if they happen across it!
Feb 8, 2022, 5:39 pm
#26
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OP - What do you think you might catch from a used sock?
It nice to have a clean environment and I don't especially want to sit in someone else's crumbs. That said, Im not sure what you might catch from a surface? There have been essentially zero confirmed cases of fomite transmission of COVID-19. I say zero, the most accurate number I could find was "a few" out of 382 million confirmed global cases. I'm not necessarily critical of the initial messaging, like many other novel viral illnesses the mode of transmission and of infectivity are unknowns during the early days but the messaging has to be reviewed as our knowledge improves. The FACE and SAPCE parts for the slogans were good - the hands less so. Viral illness in general, such as Norovirus and other GI disturbances were drastically reduced in those winters, so it might have been effective overall in protecting the NHS, but not necessarily from COVID-19.
Now, on a plane I take the view that a few crumbs aren't great but highly unlikely to cause my immune system to activate a response. On the other hand Im not going to sit in a wet seat for an hour or more. It could be water or urine, it will be uncomfortable and could irritate or cause skin breakdown, damage my personal electronics or clothes. That said, if someone did cause a seat to be wet on a LHR-JNB (for example) and the crew did not know, or the cleaning team missed it, it could well be dry by boarding given the long turns and local temperatures. Once the seat dries, I would never know and any bacteria or viral pathogens would likely be dehydrated or non infective anymore.
Lets not even think what could be on the seats of a taxi/uber, especially on a Sunday morning with a strong smell of fabric cleaner. Ignorance truly is bliss.
It nice to have a clean environment and I don't especially want to sit in someone else's crumbs. That said, Im not sure what you might catch from a surface? There have been essentially zero confirmed cases of fomite transmission of COVID-19. I say zero, the most accurate number I could find was "a few" out of 382 million confirmed global cases. I'm not necessarily critical of the initial messaging, like many other novel viral illnesses the mode of transmission and of infectivity are unknowns during the early days but the messaging has to be reviewed as our knowledge improves. The FACE and SAPCE parts for the slogans were good - the hands less so. Viral illness in general, such as Norovirus and other GI disturbances were drastically reduced in those winters, so it might have been effective overall in protecting the NHS, but not necessarily from COVID-19.
Now, on a plane I take the view that a few crumbs aren't great but highly unlikely to cause my immune system to activate a response. On the other hand Im not going to sit in a wet seat for an hour or more. It could be water or urine, it will be uncomfortable and could irritate or cause skin breakdown, damage my personal electronics or clothes. That said, if someone did cause a seat to be wet on a LHR-JNB (for example) and the crew did not know, or the cleaning team missed it, it could well be dry by boarding given the long turns and local temperatures. Once the seat dries, I would never know and any bacteria or viral pathogens would likely be dehydrated or non infective anymore.
Lets not even think what could be on the seats of a taxi/uber, especially on a Sunday morning with a strong smell of fabric cleaner. Ignorance truly is bliss.
Feb 9, 2022, 12:01 am
#27
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