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BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022

BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022

Old Jan 29, 22, 4:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Genius1 View Post
I reviewed the JFK Concorde Room here: In the Shadow of Concorde: The British Airways Premium Experience Revisited

It's a delightful lounge, and the only 'original' Concorde Room in the network from where Concorde departed until 2003.
I think this will be a sad part of the move (and realise itís now shockingly nearly 20 years since Concorde flew) but T7 is the last original spot on the network where Concorde operated out of with BA.
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Old Jan 29, 22, 6:15 pm
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Originally Posted by londonba2014 View Post
I think this will be a sad part of the move (and realise itís now shockingly nearly 20 years since Concorde flew) but T7 is the last original spot on the network where Concorde operated out of with BA.
I'm quite sad thinking of the staff at the JFK CCR who I always found to be just excellent and personable and friendly.

last September when I passed thru for the first time in probably two years bc of covid they were right there asking me how life had been, it had been two years since I passed thru etc etc. I was taken a back at this because I am not like a monthly or weekly customer--it was lovely to chat with them.

granted they probably saved loads of money on the pinot Grigio bill whilst I was away, but still. hopefully they will carry over but even if they do, it will just be a different experience entirely.
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Old Jan 30, 22, 3:02 am
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Is it just BA departing T7, will the other OW airlines also move to T8?
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Old Jan 30, 22, 4:02 am
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After 7 pages of thread, unless Iíve missed something (apologies if so) Iím still unclear what the CCR access/GGL experience will be. Will we just be downgraded to regular gold experience as in other us gateways with ggl now only making a lounge difference at lhr t5, or will we have access to full services including flagship pre dining reflecting our current t7 experience?
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Old Jan 30, 22, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
After 7 pages of thread, unless Iíve missed something (apologies if so) Iím still unclear what the CCR access/GGL experience will be. Will we just be downgraded to regular gold experience as in other us gateways with ggl now only making a lounge difference at lhr t5, or will we have access to full services including flagship pre dining reflecting our current t7 experience?
When I tweeted this question to BA, they advised that they were still in discussions with AA about access to all the lounges.
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Old Jan 30, 22, 4:06 am
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Thanks, not wholly reassuring given how protective aa has been of pre flight dining elsewhere!! please keep us posted if you receive any update!
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Old Jan 30, 22, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
Thanks, not wholly reassuring given how protective aa has been of pre flight dining elsewhere!! please keep us posted if you receive any update!
That's why I wonder if the "most premium lounge" might be branded as "BA Concorde Room" after all.

I'm sure AA would like the badge of having the most premium lounge, but that's a double edged sword for AA on US soil. If it's branded as an AA lounge, then what precedent does it set for the rest of their US Flagship First network?

If it's branded as a BA lounge, but with (some) AA customers allowed in under "local arrangements", then AA can pick and choose the access requirements that suit them, without setting a precedent for their other US lounges.

I doubt anyone knows for sure - no doubt they're still chewing over the details

Edit: My gut feeling, is that the most premium lounge won't be branded as a BA CCR, but it would solve a lot of thorny issues.
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Old Jan 30, 22, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by zen100 View Post
Edit: My gut feeling, is that the most premium lounge won't be branded as a BA CCR, but it would solve a lot of thorny issues.
I agree, unfortunately. I mean AA could hardly have a MD-80 Room and I'm sure their small number of First international and trans continental passengers wouldi regard a Concorde Room branding as quite acceptable. But I can't see it happening. Having said, this would mirror the T5 end since my understanding is that AA will permanently use T5 for the JFK service.

I would also be very surprised if any brainpower has been spent at access rights, that's the sort of tihng they will look at when they see the numbers and value of passengers involved. E.g. September.
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Old Jan 31, 22, 3:30 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
small number of First international and trans continental passengers would regard a Concorde Room branding as quite acceptable.
Shirley, there's a team of thousands imagineering a new lounge brand to encapsulate and reflect the special relationship between the UK and USA.
I hear that the "Titanic Trump Last Chance Saloon" didn't make the cut.
They were also planning to offer (sic. ambush) you with Bojo De Pfeffel's exceedingly good cakes, in lieu of scones and clotted cream.
Strangely, no mention of wine...
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Old Jan 31, 22, 5:07 am
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Am a bit torn on this, on the one hand I had to make the trek from T8 to T7 last night on a connection which was originally 1hr 40mins - but strong headwinds coming from LAX meant we pulled onto stand at T8 at 7.55pm and I was on the last BA service which departed at 8.55pm. The airtrain wasn't running, I was on crutches and the stress levels went through the roof. I managed to get a taxi to take from T8 to T7 (and jumped the line on about 500 people) but was caught in T5 traffic jams (JetBlue seemed to go into melt down last night with no gates for tons of planes scattered around the airport). Anyway, I luckily have the JFK CCR lounge number and a quick call meant I was met at the First check-in and escorted through security to the gate which was firmly shut behind me and off we went. While intra-T8 connections between BA and AA will reduce the stress considerably, I would hate if the current CCR team don't move across!

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Old Jan 31, 22, 3:38 pm
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I took some pictures of the construction work as I made my way from T8 to T7 via the Airtrain. Better views were possible as the Airtrain left T8 but I was too slow with the camera.
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Old Jan 31, 22, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by geronimo View Post
Shirley, there's a team of thousands imagineering a new lounge brand to encapsulate and reflect the special relationship between the UK and USA....
Now, one thing I am pretty sure about is that our very own good old cws has never been called Shirley before (though he may very well be capable of brilliant karaoke renditions of Goldfinger for all we know...)
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Old Feb 1, 22, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by geronimo View Post
Shirley, there's a team of thousands imagineering a new lounge brand to encapsulate and reflect the special relationship between the UK and USA.
I hear that the "Titanic Trump Last Chance Saloon" didn't make the cut.
They were also planning to offer (sic. ambush) you with Bojo De Pfeffel's exceedingly good cakes, in lieu of scones and clotted cream.
Strangely, no mention of wine...

the 1776 room has a nice ring to it!!
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Old Feb 1, 22, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by KSVVZ2015 View Post
the 1776 room has a nice ring to it!!
When I lived in London I would take off the 4th of July and rib my mates it was to commemorate the beginning of the end of the British Empire .
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Old Feb 1, 22, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by pauleeepaul View Post
When I lived in London I would take off the 4th of July and rib my mates it was to commemorate the beginning of the end of the British Empire .
Did they tell you that over here we call it "Good Riddance Day"?
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