BA and inter European travel. Terrible.
#46
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I have to disagree here. I've taken some 18 LCC sectors on U2, FR and Wizz (the three biggest LCC in Europe) since around June last year and all HBO only. With all of them I was able to go straight through security and not have to either upload anything or stand in a check-in queue. Airports used were STN, LGW, BRS, LTN from the UK and on return, from MXP, LIN, GOA, AMS, TRN, NCE, GDN and BCN.
#47
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Which is why my anecdotal experience was based on the 18 LCC sectors I have flown. It was pretty clear
#48
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... and yet this did not prevent you to pronounce on the matter in a general manner, as if what you said reflected the practice of all LCCs at all airports rather than a subset of these.
#49
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Try again, I made reference to three specific LCC's I had used. Notwithstanding that, LCCs would appear to be far better than BA in this respect because if Verifly fails (which seems to pretty common according to anecdotal experiences on here) then you 100% have to go to a check-in queue because BA does not do any GA checking of docs for HBO fares.
#50
Join Date: Nov 2017
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BA struggles enough with on-time performance as it is… checking docs at the gate would be a nightmare waiting to happen given the issues people have. The T5 model of conformance with right-to-fly checks pushes all this back to pre-security, resulting in a cleaner boarding process.
And something a lot of people are missing in this thread is the volume of connecting traffic BA carries vs. the LCCs. If you have exclusively P2P customers, you get a lot more flexibility, but if you’re connecting you’ve got several countries and their requirements to consider at the same time. Imagine the fuss there would be on this thread of docs were checked twice at each boarding gate… whereas on BA, once ADOC is set, that’s it for the whole journey.
Oh and by the way, seeing as it’s needed for balance, I’m 100% success rate with Verifly, where it’s been available.
And something a lot of people are missing in this thread is the volume of connecting traffic BA carries vs. the LCCs. If you have exclusively P2P customers, you get a lot more flexibility, but if you’re connecting you’ve got several countries and their requirements to consider at the same time. Imagine the fuss there would be on this thread of docs were checked twice at each boarding gate… whereas on BA, once ADOC is set, that’s it for the whole journey.
Oh and by the way, seeing as it’s needed for balance, I’m 100% success rate with Verifly, where it’s been available.
#51
Join Date: Apr 2012
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I have to admit I wonder about the agenda of those who begin threads such as this. If you fly an airline and find the level of service unacceptable to your tastes then surely you simply switch carriers to one that does. Why the need for all the hand wringing, angst and general disgust?
Maybe I am easily pleased but most of the time most of the flights I take within Europe are fine and pretty similar across all airlines. I tend to travel in economy or business depending on length of journey, time of day, frequency and of course price.
Maybe I am easily pleased but most of the time most of the flights I take within Europe are fine and pretty similar across all airlines. I tend to travel in economy or business depending on length of journey, time of day, frequency and of course price.
#52
Join Date: Jun 2008
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The LCC's manage this Covid doc check very well - the only pax that have to join a check-in queue are those that want to check-in a bag, all HBO pax have their docs checked at the gate as part of the boarding process. Why can't BA manage this? I suspect it is part of the union lot, "checking Covid docs is not part of the GA's role so we are not doing it".
#53
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Seatbelts have gone BoB now? I would be much less worried about the lost revenue and more worried about passenger safety. Though surely some experienced or cautious passengers will choose to purchase a seatbelt even if the sign does not illuminate.