US-UK prices doubled overnight - no more entry testing from February
Jan 16, 2022, 8:56 pm
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Theres several rumours that Boris will drop all UK covid requirements on 26 Jan including YK day 2 tests. This doesn’t sound surprising seeing he needs to dig himself out of a big hole and change the attention from parties and fridges and wheely cases of booze so giving people massive concessions would no doubt be headlines for a bit.
Jan 16, 2022, 10:47 pm
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Theres several rumours that Boris will drop all UK covid requirements on 26 Jan including YK day 2 tests. This doesn’t sound surprising seeing he needs to dig himself out of a big hole and change the attention from parties and fridges and wheely cases of booze so giving people massive concessions would no doubt be headlines for a bit.
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Jan 17, 2022, 1:11 am
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The outlets seem to be saying the government needs to dig itself out of a hole so will therefore try to give the public some concessions to take the heat from them and get headlines changed
Jan 17, 2022, 1:13 am
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I for one am crossing any fingers or toes I'm capable of crossing for the end of mandatory testing, on the assumption the rationale is as KARFA suggests.
My admittedly amateur reading of the published data finds that reasonable; a year ago we were seeing 30-50k daily cases and 500-1500 daily deaths, now 100-200k daily cases but 100-200 daily deaths (rough rolling averages for UK from worldometer - apologies if numbers are wrong). Clearly this is an emotive subject - little comfort to those ~100 and their families, and we'd all love there to be zero deaths - but somewhere between vaccination, natural immunity and evolution of the virus itself it does appear to be becoming more virulent but less lethal.
For half a second I thought this was the other way around - US dropping testing requirements - but I suspect we have a while for that even if this rumour does prove true.
My admittedly amateur reading of the published data finds that reasonable; a year ago we were seeing 30-50k daily cases and 500-1500 daily deaths, now 100-200k daily cases but 100-200 daily deaths (rough rolling averages for UK from worldometer - apologies if numbers are wrong). Clearly this is an emotive subject - little comfort to those ~100 and their families, and we'd all love there to be zero deaths - but somewhere between vaccination, natural immunity and evolution of the virus itself it does appear to be becoming more virulent but less lethal.
For half a second I thought this was the other way around - US dropping testing requirements - but I suspect we have a while for that even if this rumour does prove true.
Jan 17, 2022, 1:22 am
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Is it not more likely due to BA cancelling services? While the original flying programme had lots of capacity, prices were lower, but then as schedules firm up and surplus flights are cut, prices go up.
Jan 17, 2022, 1:48 am
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Indeed I imagine those routes that have been cut will see a price increase for the reduced number of seats now available ...
Jan 17, 2022, 2:59 am
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Time to get back to work.
Jan 17, 2022, 3:13 am
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the booster take up in the UK may be good, but tht my not be the case with all the non residents who enter the UK every day
Would this be a change to require a day 2 plan for non residents? if a change happens then hopefully those of us boostered abroad are afforded the same advantage, and recognsed that many of us have a "one and done" first vaccination so boostered may only be 2 dozes some 6 months apart
Jan 17, 2022, 3:54 am
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I don’t think there is any requirement for a booster in current rules, and I haven’t seen any suggestion of that changing at the end of the month. So for now you shouldn’t be disadvantaged if you have been fully jabbed as a non uk resident.
Jan 17, 2022, 4:09 am
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Cash rates for BA flights from US to UK almost doubled overnight for March dates I had been tracking. Only reason possible is due to no more covid entry testing required for 3rd dose/boosted travellers that is starting in 2 weeks if you're entering the UK.
How will this affect avios pricing? Good time to unload avios before flights become more expense due to higher demand?
How will this affect avios pricing? Good time to unload avios before flights become more expense due to higher demand?
Fares doubled? Nope. I can't see anything other than an AP restriction coming into play either.
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Published 10.01.2022 Published 17.01.2022
INX6F2S3 $700 60
INX4A7S5 $1,000 14 INX4A7S5 $1,000 14
INX2T1S5 $1,040 21 INX2T1S5 $1,040 21
INX6F2S9 $1,100 60
INX2T2S5 $1,200 21 INX2T2S5 $1,200 21
INX7A7S5 $1,300 7 INX7A7S5 $1,300 7
INX4A7S9 $2,000 14 INX4A7S9 $2,000 14
INN4F1S3 $2,001 14 INN4F1S3 $2,001 14
INX2T1S9 $2,040 21 INX2T1S9 $2,040 21
INX2T2S9 $2,200 21 INX2T2S9 $2,200 21
INX7A7S9 $2,300 7 INX7A7S9 $2,300 7
INX7F7S3 $2,350 7 INX7F7S3 $2,350 7
INX5C7S3 $2,400 50 INX5C7S3 $2,400 50
INX7F1S3 $2,450 7 INX7F1S3 $2,450 7
INX8F0S3 $2,650 28
INX5C7S9 $2,800 50 INX5C7S9 $2,800 50
INN4F0S3 $2,850 14 INN4F0S3 $2,850 14
INN4F1S9 $3,001 14 INN4F1S9 $3,001 14
INN0I3S3 $3,250 INN0I3S3 $3,250
INX7F7S9 $3,350 7 INX7F7S9 $3,350 7
INX7F1S9 $3,450 7 INX7F1S9 $3,450 7
INX8C7Y3 $3,500 28 INX8C7Y3 $3,500 28
INX8F0S9 $3,550 28
INN0I0S3 $3,650 INN0I0S3 $3,650
INX8C7Y9 $3,900 28 INX8C7Y9 $3,900 28
INX8C7S3 $4,000 28 INX8C7S3 $4,000 28
INX4T7S5 $4,300 14 INX4T7S5 $4,300 14
INN4F0S9 $4,350 14 INN4F0S9 $4,350 14
INX8C7S9 $4,400 28 INX8C7S9 $4,400 28
INN0I3S9 $5,250 INN0I3S9 $5,250
INX4T7S9 $5,300 14 INX4T7S9 $5,300 14
INN0I0S9 $5,650 INN0I0S9 $5,650
INN0C0S3 $7,400 INN0C0S3 $7,400
INN0C0S9 $8,900 INN0C0S9 $8,900
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Jan 17, 2022, 8:30 am
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Can you share the chart for econ fares from East Coast > LHR? TIA
Well, if it's not an availability problem, then it must be a fare problem. It's a good thing that it's quite easy to unwind the arrow of time, and see what fares were available, say, a week ago for March travel. To reduce the number of lines, I've taken JFK-LHR-JFK, I class, travel dates of 15 March out, 22 March back, round-trip fares only. The left-hand column shows the fares published on 10 January 2022, and the right-hand column shows the fares published now. Blank lines introduced to align the matching fares that haven't changed over the past week.
Fares doubled? Nope. I can't see anything other than an AP restriction coming into play either.
Fares doubled? Nope. I can't see anything other than an AP restriction coming into play either.
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Published 10.01.2022 Published 17.01.2022
INX6F2S3 $700 60
INX4A7S5 $1,000 14 INX4A7S5 $1,000 14
INX2T1S5 $1,040 21 INX2T1S5 $1,040 21
INX6F2S9 $1,100 60
INX2T2S5 $1,200 21 INX2T2S5 $1,200 21
INX7A7S5 $1,300 7 INX7A7S5 $1,300 7
INX4A7S9 $2,000 14 INX4A7S9 $2,000 14
INN4F1S3 $2,001 14 INN4F1S3 $2,001 14
INX2T1S9 $2,040 21 INX2T1S9 $2,040 21
INX2T2S9 $2,200 21 INX2T2S9 $2,200 21
INX7A7S9 $2,300 7 INX7A7S9 $2,300 7
INX7F7S3 $2,350 7 INX7F7S3 $2,350 7
INX5C7S3 $2,400 50 INX5C7S3 $2,400 50
INX7F1S3 $2,450 7 INX7F1S3 $2,450 7
INX8F0S3 $2,650 28
INX5C7S9 $2,800 50 INX5C7S9 $2,800 50
INN4F0S3 $2,850 14 INN4F0S3 $2,850 14
INN4F1S9 $3,001 14 INN4F1S9 $3,001 14
INN0I3S3 $3,250 INN0I3S3 $3,250
INX7F7S9 $3,350 7 INX7F7S9 $3,350 7
INX7F1S9 $3,450 7 INX7F1S9 $3,450 7
INX8C7Y3 $3,500 28 INX8C7Y3 $3,500 28
INX8F0S9 $3,550 28
INN0I0S3 $3,650 INN0I0S3 $3,650
INX8C7Y9 $3,900 28 INX8C7Y9 $3,900 28
INX8C7S3 $4,000 28 INX8C7S3 $4,000 28
INX4T7S5 $4,300 14 INX4T7S5 $4,300 14
INN4F0S9 $4,350 14 INN4F0S9 $4,350 14
INX8C7S9 $4,400 28 INX8C7S9 $4,400 28
INN0I3S9 $5,250 INN0I3S9 $5,250
INX4T7S9 $5,300 14 INX4T7S9 $5,300 14
INN0I0S9 $5,650 INN0I0S9 $5,650
INN0C0S3 $7,400 INN0C0S3 $7,400
INN0C0S9 $8,900 INN0C0S9 $8,900
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Jan 17, 2022, 9:00 am
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JFK is East Coast.
Did you have something more specific in mind? Like a specific route, and specific travel dates? And perhaps you can tell us what you saw, and how many routes, fares and dates you investigated before you came to either of your sweeping conclusions?
Did you have something more specific in mind? Like a specific route, and specific travel dates? And perhaps you can tell us what you saw, and how many routes, fares and dates you investigated before you came to either of your sweeping conclusions?