UK APD Changes announced in the Oct '21 budget
Oct 27, 21, 8:09 am
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At least in France you can land at CDG and take TGV from the airport... how would that work in London? Land at Heathrow, take HEx to Paddington, tube to Euston, walk overground, take train to Manchester... and then your train to Manchester is likely to cost you more than your flight into Heathrow (or any other London airport).
Oct 27, 21, 8:19 am
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Hi
be interesting to see what routes will have the higher rate ( depending on the definition of miles)
Potential affected routes could include for example
Tokyo and Japan
Hong Kong
Singapore
Los angeles?
South Africa?
Regards
Tbs
Whilst a positive impact for me on the domestic and it seems a bit odd to reduce it just now.
be interesting to see what routes will have the higher rate ( depending on the definition of miles)
Potential affected routes could include for example
Tokyo and Japan
Hong Kong
Singapore
Los angeles?
South Africa?
Regards
Tbs
Whilst a positive impact for me on the domestic and it seems a bit odd to reduce it just now.
Last edited by The _Banking_Scot; Oct 27, 21 at 8:41 am
Oct 27, 21, 8:21 am
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If the band uses statute miles, the 5500+ mile ultra long haul band from LHR will be all the destinations in the shaded area per gcmap.com:
SAN squeaks in at 5474, but MEX does not at 5562, nor JNB at 5628. BA's Brazilian destinations are also out.
SAN squeaks in at 5474, but MEX does not at 5562, nor JNB at 5628. BA's Brazilian destinations are also out.
Oct 27, 21, 8:38 am
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This is what I have found out:
Current rates
Increases from 1 April 2022, announced in March 2021
Announcements in the budget review documents on the Treasury site
So I think the new rates from 1 April 2023 are:
So overall summary is
Current rates
Band A (up to 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 13
Standard (all above Y) - 26
Band B (above 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 82
Standard (all above Y) - 180
Reduced (Y) - 13
Standard (all above Y) - 26
Band B (above 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 82
Standard (all above Y) - 180
Band A (up to 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 13
Standard (all above Y) - 26
Band B (above 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 84
Standard (all above Y) - 185
Reduced (Y) - 13
Standard (all above Y) - 26
Band B (above 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 84
Standard (all above Y) - 185
2.183 The government is introducing a package of Air Passenger Duty (APD) reforms that will bolster UK air connectivity through a 50% cut in domestic APD, and further align with UK environmental objectives by adding a new ultra-long-haul distance band.
2.184 Following consultation, the government will introduce a new domestic band for APD set at 6.50. The rate will apply to all flights between airports in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (excluding private jets). As a result, around 9 million passengers will pay less
APD in 2023-24. This will benefit connectivity between Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
2.185 In addition, the government is increasing the number of international distance bands from two to three, with the new distance bands set at 0-2,000 miles; 2,000-5,500 miles and 5,500 miles plus. The rates will be 13; 87 and 91 respectively for economy passengers.
This will align APD more closely with environmental objectives by ensuring that those who fly furthest incur the greatest level of duty.
2.184 Following consultation, the government will introduce a new domestic band for APD set at 6.50. The rate will apply to all flights between airports in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (excluding private jets). As a result, around 9 million passengers will pay less
APD in 2023-24. This will benefit connectivity between Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
2.185 In addition, the government is increasing the number of international distance bands from two to three, with the new distance bands set at 0-2,000 miles; 2,000-5,500 miles and 5,500 miles plus. The rates will be 13; 87 and 91 respectively for economy passengers.
This will align APD more closely with environmental objectives by ensuring that those who fly furthest incur the greatest level of duty.
A new domestic distance band for APD, covering flights within the UK. The domestic rates will be set at 6.50 for reduced rate, 13 for standard rate and higher rate passengers will continue to pay Band A rates.
An increase in the number of APD international distance bands from 2 to 3. A new Band C will be introduced, which applies to flights where the capital city of the final destination is over 5,500 miles from London. The new Band C reduced rate will be 4 greater than Band B and will use the Band B multipliers to determine the standard and higher rates.
These measures will have effect in relation to the carriage of passengers on or after 1 April 2023.
An increase in the number of APD international distance bands from 2 to 3. A new Band C will be introduced, which applies to flights where the capital city of the final destination is over 5,500 miles from London. The new Band C reduced rate will be 4 greater than Band B and will use the Band B multipliers to determine the standard and higher rates.
These measures will have effect in relation to the carriage of passengers on or after 1 April 2023.
Domestic band (UK, assume it doesn't include JER and IOM)
Reduced (Y) - 6.50
Standard (all above Y) - 13
Band A (non domestic up to 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 13
Standard (all above Y) - 26
Band B (2,000 miles up to 5,500 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 87
Standard (all above Y) - 192 (assumes same % increase as reduced rate)
New band (above 5,500 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 91
Standard (all above Y) - 201.00 (assumes same multiplier from reduced to standard as for band B)
Reduced (Y) - 6.50
Standard (all above Y) - 13
Band A (non domestic up to 2,000 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 13
Standard (all above Y) - 26
Band B (2,000 miles up to 5,500 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 87
Standard (all above Y) - 192 (assumes same % increase as reduced rate)
New band (above 5,500 miles)
Reduced (Y) - 91
Standard (all above Y) - 201.00 (assumes same multiplier from reduced to standard as for band B)
Last edited by KARFA; Oct 27, 21 at 9:40 am
Oct 27, 21, 8:43 am
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At least in France you can land at CDG and take TGV from the airport... how would that work in London? Land at Heathrow, take HEx to Paddington, tube to Euston, walk overground, take train to Manchester... and then your train to Manchester is likely to cost you more than your flight into Heathrow (or any other London airport).
Oct 27, 21, 8:57 am
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The responses to the government's APD consultation were released this morning. Chart 3A shows a map of the bandings and Annex B gives the list of countries to be included in the 2,000-
5,500 mile band.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...LATE__002_.pdf
5,500 mile band.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...LATE__002_.pdf
Oct 27, 21, 9:03 am
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Reduced rate
For travel in the lowest class of travel available on the plane for seat pitches less than 1.016 metres (40 inches).
Standard rate
For travel in any other class of travel or where the seat pitch is more than 1.016 metres (40 inches).
For travel in the lowest class of travel available on the plane for seat pitches less than 1.016 metres (40 inches).
Standard rate
For travel in any other class of travel or where the seat pitch is more than 1.016 metres (40 inches).
Oct 27, 21, 9:28 am
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At least in France you can land at CDG and take TGV from the airport... how would that work in London? Land at Heathrow, take HEx to Paddington, tube to Euston, walk overground, take train to Manchester... and then your train to Manchester is likely to cost you more than your flight into Heathrow (or any other London airport).
Oct 27, 21, 9:50 am
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I assume LCA continues to escape being in the >2000 mile band, despite being >2000 miles.
Is that because it's a specific exemption, or because another airport pair in the country (PFO) is <2000 miles, or they measure it capital to capital (to Nicosia), rather than to the airport (Larnaca)?
Is that because it's a specific exemption, or because another airport pair in the country (PFO) is <2000 miles, or they measure it capital to capital (to Nicosia), rather than to the airport (Larnaca)?
Oct 27, 21, 9:53 am
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I assume LCA continues to escape being in the >2000 mile band, despite being >2000 miles.
Is that because it's a specific exemption, or because another airport pair in the country (PFO) is <2000 miles, or they measure it capital to capital (to Nicosia), rather than to the airport (Larnaca)?
Is that because it's a specific exemption, or because another airport pair in the country (PFO) is <2000 miles, or they measure it capital to capital (to Nicosia), rather than to the airport (Larnaca)?
