carrotjuice

There is no quota to issuance of VTPs. Quota, if any, lies in the number of seats that airlines cumulatively make them available via VTL flights daily. That said, non SIN arrivals can travel on VTL flights too, hence unsure where exactly the "control" element truly lies.

I won't be surprised if SQ doesn't make available one of multiple flights a day as non VTL. Because as countries open up (particularly traffic to Australia) SQ will yet again become a connection hub from its European traffic. BA on the other hand, unless it reverts to two flights a day like pre COVID, needs to make a choice of which is of greater importance (bigger revenue) - transporting passengers to SIN, or onward to SYD via SIN.

Midships

Expressed myself poorly.

I wasn't referring to quotas. I meant those pax that couldn't get a VTP because the pax had not spent the previous 14 days in a VTL country.

In addition, as per Singapore gov't:

"Transfer/transit passengers who are fully vaccinatedwith WHO EUL vaccines may travel on designated VTL (Air) flights, regardless of where they were issued their vaccination certificate and regardless of their travel history, as long as they are able to show proof of vaccination."

Unless I am missing something obvious, difficult to see why BA15 cannot be a VTL flight to Singapore carrying non-VTP passengers who are going on to Sydney.

cactus319

I’m still so confused about this (so sorry) - if I am fully vaccinated and book SQ305, which is not designated as a VTL flight - connecting to DPS after 10 hour layover SIN - will I get held up in SIN and either (i) not cleared upon arrival / forced to quarantine or (ii) held in a designated transit area in SIN until 60 min prior to my departure to DPS?

I waited on hold with SQ for :90 min last night and ultimately gave up; tried again this morning, was able to get through…but unfortunately the Associate said she was not fully trained and would need to take my info and inquiry and pass along to another Associate who would reach out to me in 24-48. Ugh!

I’m so sorry for all the questions but it’s been so hard to get answers / clarity on this situation. Thanks to All so much for your insights .

Singapore_Air

SQ 305 is not a VTL flight. Therefore, you need to be aware of the requirements for transit in Singapore (https://safetravel.ica.gov.sg/transit/overview - including a professionally administered ART test (with certificate) within 2 days of departure on SQ 305) as well as the arrival requirements for DPS whatever they are.

You will not be arriving in Singapore or held in quarantine in Singapore.

In Singapore you will be subject to the stupid Transit Holding Area (https://www.changiairport.com/en/air...rport.html#tha - see "For All Other Passengers").

carrotjuice

Unless CAAS changes its rules for June (possibly), as you're arriving from UK, you'd spend 10 hours in the transit holding pen (awful). However, you may make your transit more comfortable by booking the airside Ambassador Transit Hotel at T3 where, as an arrival from UK you'd be escorted there by staff from and to the transit holding pen. You're not allowed to shop or dine at any of the airport's outlets.

BA arrivals can avail of similar booking at, and escort arrangements to and from, Aerotel at T1.

ozrev888

I'm booked on a BA16 flight in early April, SYD-SIN & I've been going crazy trying to find out if its a VTL flight as if it isn't I have a major problem, I've gone to the trouble of ringing BA in the UK & they confirmed it is and so have Qantas whom I made the booking with.

However recently saw an article on Executive Traveler which says BA is yet to decide if its a VTL flight , I'm very anxious !

gcuk

Official cancellation arrived this morning for my BA11/12 flights as part of a Sydney trip in June.
Waiting to see what options there are closer to the time of travel before rebooking, and also that BA15 is the new VTL flight.

AmaaiZeg

Our SIN LHR BA12 in May now also cancelled. We accepted the shift to BA15 as there were only 3 seats left in first. We might possibly have a baby in between us on that flight. 😃

sammyg901

https://mainlymiles.com/2022/02/15/q...-requirements/

I thought this was interesting, BA will have the same problem and may chose to reroute the flight via another city that allows test free transit. I'm not familiar with testing rules but KL or Bangkok would be potential options I'd say

carrotjuice

Interesting indeed. Singapore’s loss - again due to its COVID theatre.

Would be interesting also to see how KUL will open up. Malaysia has been rather uncreatively following one step behind Singapore, almost copying every action that the latter has taken including establishing bilateral VTL with (only) Singapore, with daily COVID tests for 7 days after arrival, and clamping down on new ticket sales during the height of Omicron.

BESTEDIFLYER

Had BA11 in May cancelled and BA12 in June cancelled moved to BA15/16 happy enough with the changes. Got1A and 2A on BA15.

Exsilver

My BA11 in May was changed to the BA15 but I still haven’t been notified. I also have 1A and 2A on the BA15, I hope we are not travelling on the same day!

carrotjuice

By the way, Malaysia opening up has been put on hold: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malay...udy-sa/2041525

Also at present, MH is the only OW airline that flies from KUL to LHR, BA has ceased its flights.

Hotcat1970

Changes announced just now to the VTL arrangements, including addition of UAE, Qatar and others
Essentially, no PCR on arrival, now just a single supervised ART test within 24hrs of arrival.
Plus, for those transiting, no pre departure testing at point of origin required.
all here:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...rt-from-feb-22

"The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) said on Wednesday that in tandem with the other adjustments to travel measures, CAAS will also be removing the pre-departure test requirements for all passengers transferring or transiting through Singapore."

TGflyergirl

Got this same question. Got a BA16 SYD-SIN in May and am not going on to LHR. Anyone have any more up to date news on it?