Tugs at LHR T5A :(

Old Aug 11, 21, 3:08 am
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Tugs at LHR T5A :(

Second flight out of LHR T5A in 2 weeks and both have been delayed by tugs.

Last time, the robot tug refused to disengage, so we were stuck getting pushed back and delayed a flight out of A23.
Took half an hour or so to rectify that one.

Now, pushing back from A23, a tug pushing back an aircraft after from A21? has blown a tire, so now we're stuck 50 minutes after we should have departed.

Not having much luck here!
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Old Aug 11, 21, 3:51 am
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Delayed last week by broken down tug. Luckily it did not break the front wheel like a few years ago and a change of plane was required!
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Old Aug 11, 21, 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by xenole View Post
Second flight out of LHR T5A in 2 weeks and both have been delayed by tugs.

Last time, the robot tug refused to disengage, so we were stuck getting pushed back and delayed a flight out of A23.
Took half an hour or so to rectify that one.

Now, pushing back from A23, a tug pushing back an aircraft after from A21? has blown a tire, so now we're stuck 50 minutes after we should have departed.

Not having much luck here!

oh no--the robots are developing feelings.

this does not bode well for us.
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Old Aug 11, 21, 6:28 am
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Time to deploy the thrust reverses and have the aircraft back itself away from the stand.
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Old Aug 11, 21, 6:55 am
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Time to deploy the thrust reverses and have the aircraft back itself away from the stand.
That used to be SOP at many US carriers back in the day. Piedmont and Eastern spring to mind.
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Old Aug 11, 21, 7:14 am
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That couldn't happen on a bus gate, right? Time to start hoping for A10?
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Old Aug 11, 21, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by psychopompos View Post
That couldn't happen on a bus gate, right? Time to start hoping for A10?
the plane still needs to push back even when on a remote stand
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Old Aug 11, 21, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by psychopompos View Post
That couldn't happen on a bus gate, right? Time to start hoping for A10?
hi.

Once you got to the stand by bus the aircraft would still need to be pushed back from the remote stand by .... a tug

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Old Aug 11, 21, 7:32 am
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Who needs tugs.

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Ah the good old days of delays caused by preventable reasons. Waiting for a tug, stand guidance systems not turned on, no buses, flying in circles over Bovingdon, even delayed departure downroute in anticipation of slot delays into LHR.
Makes me long for a return to those days.
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Old Aug 11, 21, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
the plane still needs to push back even when on a remote stand
Hmm, why did I think that the plane can just go forward at remote stands...
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Old Aug 11, 21, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by psychopompos View Post
Hmm, why did I think that the plane can just go forward at remote stands...

FRA has some “drive through “ remote stands.
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Old Aug 11, 21, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by psychopompos View Post
Hmm, why did I think that the plane can just go forward at remote stands...
There are remote stands at some airports where that can happen, and even places where you start engines on stand and then pirouette out to the taxiway (for example INV and INN). But I don't think any remote stands at LHR are like that and therefore all require pushback.
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Old Aug 11, 21, 1:53 pm
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There are remote stands at some airports where that can happen, and even places where you start engines on stand and then pirouette out to the taxiway (for example INV and INN). But I don't think any remote stands at LHR are like that and therefore all require pushback.
Any reason why? Is it just down to available space?
To my mind, drive through would be the more efficient process. But I'm sure there must be a good reason they go with push back.
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Old Aug 11, 21, 1:56 pm
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I guess a drive through stand requires more space per stand as you need a taxiway either side, whereas a push back stand requires only one taxiway on one side for entry and exit.
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