77H new F - some observations
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77H new F - some observations
I’ve not seen any reviews of the updated F seat on the new 777-300s (G-STBM/N/O/P). I’ve just returned from a fab trip to Barbados and flew home in the new cabin. A few observations…
No flower in the loo, although the holder is there!
No WiFi (coming later?)
Seat
Screen offset to side and angled away to the centre line of the aircraft, odd. Feels wonky and can’t be adjusted.
The tray table still folds in half, but doesn’t push away as far as it used to, meaning getting out with the table out is very tricky, and I’m a skinny cyclist… it pivots back into the console, although that’s difficult when it’s fully laid.
Gap between side console and seat bench higher than on 787, felt like more room.
Under side console light can be turned off (I read one comment somewhere that said it couldn’t).
Side wardrobe very narrow, really only for a jacket or laptop bag. Side wardrobe now has a separate, removable, hanger. Side wardrobe is connected to the deep storage to the front left, so if you lose something you thought you put in there, it’s in the bottom of the wardrobe… 🤦♂️
Headphone socket temperamental, needed gentle wiggle to get good sound.
It seems you can no longer toggle the lights on-off with the buttons. It has to be dimmed, although there is one button that allows you to dim all of them at once.
Overhead panel light - how does that work? No idea.
No automatic window blinds, although the mesh is there to protect them under the side console and the current gap between seat and cabin wall is filled with foam-like pipe lagging. Perhaps the full blind is coming later at first maintenance?
Sides of the suite are nice and high, very private, especially with the door closed in bed mode.
Service
Fantastic crew and great food other than dessert.
Soft product completely as normal.
No PDB and no warm nuts - only a bottle of water.
Menu has lots of choice inc. chocolates which are now Lindt Lindor. 3 choices of starter and main and 2 desserts (cold cake - previous CW dessert - the only thing that really wasn’t great - and ice cream).
4 cheeses - and the chilli jam - yum!
Wine list and spirits etc as usual.
No flower in the loo, although the holder is there!
No WiFi (coming later?)
Seat
Screen offset to side and angled away to the centre line of the aircraft, odd. Feels wonky and can’t be adjusted.
The tray table still folds in half, but doesn’t push away as far as it used to, meaning getting out with the table out is very tricky, and I’m a skinny cyclist… it pivots back into the console, although that’s difficult when it’s fully laid.
Gap between side console and seat bench higher than on 787, felt like more room.
Under side console light can be turned off (I read one comment somewhere that said it couldn’t).
Side wardrobe very narrow, really only for a jacket or laptop bag. Side wardrobe now has a separate, removable, hanger. Side wardrobe is connected to the deep storage to the front left, so if you lose something you thought you put in there, it’s in the bottom of the wardrobe… 🤦♂️
Headphone socket temperamental, needed gentle wiggle to get good sound.
It seems you can no longer toggle the lights on-off with the buttons. It has to be dimmed, although there is one button that allows you to dim all of them at once.
Overhead panel light - how does that work? No idea.
No automatic window blinds, although the mesh is there to protect them under the side console and the current gap between seat and cabin wall is filled with foam-like pipe lagging. Perhaps the full blind is coming later at first maintenance?
Sides of the suite are nice and high, very private, especially with the door closed in bed mode.
Service
Fantastic crew and great food other than dessert.
Soft product completely as normal.
No PDB and no warm nuts - only a bottle of water.
Menu has lots of choice inc. chocolates which are now Lindt Lindor. 3 choices of starter and main and 2 desserts (cold cake - previous CW dessert - the only thing that really wasn’t great - and ice cream).
4 cheeses - and the chilli jam - yum!
Wine list and spirits etc as usual.
Last edited by TheFlyingCyclist; Aug 9, 2021 at 8:18 am
#3
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I did read somewhere that the First blinds on all other aircraft will be retrofitted to these new birds (when - who knows!) as well as Wifi, but seems strange they couldn't have been installed upon arrival to LHR to keep things consistent (WIFI prob takes longer).
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Good review! I flew in F on a 787-10 yesterday LHR-DFW with a similar seat. No PDB (I asked and they said they were too busy). The headphone socket was very temperamental but I eventually got it to work. I also had one phone charger that caused a horrible hum in the headphones. Was going to ask for another set and I'm glad I didn't since it was caused by my charger. There was a button for the overhead light but the others only worked via the dimmer dial. No individual air vents and it was too hot.
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the tv being centered would have been an ergonomic disaster--it needs to be at an angle, in line with the seat center line to avoid long term neck pain that would slowly build over 8 hours.
thanks for the pics! my first time wont be until late next month on the refurbed 777
thanks for the pics! my first time wont be until late next month on the refurbed 777
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Nice. Recently had my first F flights on the 789, beforehand always had flown BA F on the 777 or 744.
Your 77H photo looks very similar to the 789 except
Even though the 789/X and 77H F looks nice, I still prefer the old 777 F for space. Better foot room and yes the old table was massive.
789 F
For row 1 I still think they had the opportunity to create tons more foot room as the curved front isn't used up to the bulkhead.
Your 77H photo looks very similar to the 789 except
- Wider panel by the window
- Glad to see the metal edge. My 789 F's were very worn down
- The door
Even though the 789/X and 77H F looks nice, I still prefer the old 777 F for space. Better foot room and yes the old table was massive.
789 F
For row 1 I still think they had the opportunity to create tons more foot room as the curved front isn't used up to the bulkhead.
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the tv being centered would have been an ergonomic disaster--it needs to be at an angle, in line with the seat center line to avoid long term neck pain that would slowly build over 8 hours.
thanks for the pics! my first time wont be until late next month on the refurbed 777
thanks for the pics! my first time wont be until late next month on the refurbed 777
So it is an ergonomic crime. Disaster? Maybe not.
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Well at least it is honest rather than “due to covid”. IE you can’t catch covid from the cabin service after takeoff but you can whilst sat at the gate. I think they really should reinstate pdbs now. Hot towels I can sort of understand (more in terms of how they were collected in) - and remember the bread basket pass in club where uou were often encouraged to reach in & grab a bread roll or pastry?!
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Yes, however it is at the wrong angle and offset to the centreline, too. Imagine looking at your home TV sitting well off-centre with the TV twisted on the bracket.
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