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BA at Manchester

MAN airport website for BA info (including security wait times): https://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/...itish-airways/

Terminal and check-in desks:

All BA flights depart and arrive at Terminal 3.


Departure:

Fast Track security is available, subject to usual BA rules. It works pretty well most of the time, but do check before you join the fast track lane if it's a single lane to avoid taking longer in fast track than in the normal lanes.

According to the airport, the following retail and food offerings are available in Terminal 3: World Duty Free, KFC, Lion & Antelope, Costa, WHSmith, Boots, The Nook, Kiosco and Pork & Pickle

Lounges:

The Escape Lounge in T3 is available for BA passengers. As with the previous arrangement at T3, we assume Escape will allow access along usual BA eligibility rules (class of travel and / or status), including 2 guests for GGL and Premier cardholders. The lounge is open from 04:00 and closes at 19:45 each day except Saturdays when it will close at 17:30.

Gates:

Flights typically depart from from Gate 142 or 143.

Boarding is generally prioritised by Groups.

Arrivals:

Flights land at Terminal 3. Travelex and WHSmith will be open in Terminal 3 Arrivals.

Flights tend to arrive at Gates 142 or 143, with an airbridge to the terminal. There is a flight of steps down to ground level once in the terminal.
Baggage collection is at Terminal 3
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BA experience at Manchester

Old Sep 29, 21, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by ThatT1Feeling
That's nuts, unless there were incredible tailwinds from the south. I suspect there was no food loaded and why would the captain get involved with this?

Surely it would be the CC lead who should manage cabin service announcements?
I suspect this was more the IFL panicking and using it as an excuse tbh. Unless the weather really was forecast for lots of turbulence throughout I can't see why the captain would interfere and start telling the IFL to cut the food service and do drinks only.

I did have one flight a few years ago to JER on which there ended up being no service due to weather. Frankly that was a flight which was turbulent throughout and the crew actually remained seated for the entire flight. Entirely understandable and at the end the captain apologised but everyone could see that a service was not possible.

Yesterday was not like that.
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Old Sep 29, 21, 6:24 am
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I just checked the flight time on my last flight upto MAN - BA1402 on the 30/08/2021, flight time was 31 mins which is the exact same time as yesterday. Club load was similar too from memory.
They served everyone without issue, in row 1 I even got a second drink (I offered to switch to plastic early to help them, but they said it was fine).
They did seem a bit nervous before take off, but the SCCM had briefed the crew on what needed doing, and once in the air they managed fine.
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Old Sep 29, 21, 6:27 am
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It's not often a post like this from KARFA.

It must have been pretty dreadful.

At least it can't get any worse , I think...
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Old Sep 29, 21, 6:39 am
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However, what I have said before is that these failings to do a service will be raised by crew and the BA response will end up being that more elements of the service will be removed rather that seeing that it is a lack of crew training and that a full service should be possible.

As you can tell I really am not happy about that flight yesterday. Unfortunately whilst that was a particularly poor example, it is not an isolated one and over the last few months these short routes have been really poor. It is not a one off.
Perhaps it's worth putting in a complaint about such failings and point at the lack of crew training to make BA aware of the other side of the picture?
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Old Sep 29, 21, 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by SamYeager
Perhaps it's worth putting in a complaint about such failings and point at the lack of crew training to make BA aware of the other side of the picture?
Id agree and it might make a nice change for BA to get complaints from pax other than me on the MAN route!

Ironically, my early flight to MAN yesterday was for once boarded from an air bridge, on time and all pax fully fed and watered - and thats a rare exception for that route at the moment.
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Old Sep 29, 21, 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by ThatT1Feeling


That's nuts, unless there were incredible tailwinds from the south. I suspect there was no food loaded and why would the captain get involved with this?

Surely it would be the CC lead who should manage cabin service announcements?
Yep, short flight - only about 35 mins in total so you'd be right with the tailwinds.
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Old Sep 29, 21, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA

Having set out what they were going to do one of the crew came up straight away once we were up and they therefore had three crew serving from the start with two drinks trolleys. The crew member who served me was clearly not used to short routes since she poured about 2/3rds of the gin in to the glass and then proceeded to put the bottle with the remaining 1/3rd gin back in the tray until I asked her for it. You have to wonder what goes through some peoples minds sometimes - which doesn't seem to be very much.
I was in 1D next to you. Howdy :-)
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Old Sep 29, 21, 12:01 pm
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Since the Cabin crew fleets have been merged, it's quite noticable that those who previously worked 'Worldwide fleet' are finding the short MAN route to be a bit of a culture shock. The concept of a 40min turnaround on the ground, i.e. the outbound passengers are lining up down the bridge as soon as the inbound passengers have disembarked is alien to some. I can't comment on service in the air, but the you can certainly tell which crews were ex Mix-fleet and those who are ex WW and EF in terms of turn-around efficiency on the ground.
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Old Sep 29, 21, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Tryhard
I was in 1D next to you. Howdy :-)
Hi Tryhard, thanks and yes I remember you yesterday. Sorry we didn't talk yesterday. I stuck to the indoor route to the train station yesterday otherwise I would have got soaked.
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Old Sep 29, 21, 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Hi Tryhard, thanks and yes I remember you yesterday. Sorry we didn't talk yesterday. I stuck to the indoor route to the train station yesterday otherwise I would have got soaked.
An full indoor route from T3 to the train station?

Please do explain as the old inside route closed years ago and I would love to not have to go outside under the semi covered walkway.
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Old Sep 29, 21, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by MaxFlyer
An full indoor route from T3 to the train station?

Please do explain as the old inside route closed years ago and I would love to not have to go outside under the semi covered walkway.
Well as in I stayed under the plastic covered walkway to T1, then inside T1 and out past the Spar shop, then right and up the escalator to the raised walkway to the train station.
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Well as in I stayed under the plastic covered walkway to T1, then inside T1 and out past the Spar shop, then right and up the escalator to the raised walkway to the train station.
Ah so the standard route. I thought there was a secret route that kept you nice and warm and dry.
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Seeing as its 95% likely to be peeing it down at lunchtime tomorrow, Ill be taking the full indoor route to departures from the train station to T1 and then fully internal to the departure gate.
I guess its good to see Manchester weather back to normal 😊 🌧
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Old Sep 29, 21, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ThatT1Feeling
I guess its good to see Manchester weather back to normal 😊 🌧
Let's hope whoever it is that knows where the MAG drip buckets are kept wasn't furloughed!
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Old Sep 29, 21, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA
That flight was possibly one of the worst I have been on and frankly a shambles.

It was the senior cabin crew member who said that, but the wording was along the lines of I have discussed this with the captain and due to the weather and short service time there will be a drinks service only in club. The weather was no worse than normal both in climb out and from LHR and approach in to MAN. There was a heavy shower that moved through as we pushed back, but it had stopped and moved on by the time we took off. Frankly I had more turbulence earlier in the day coming down from ABZ than we did on that flight. Once we were above the clouds around 5-10 minutes in to the flight we had no issues at all and it was a smooth flight but the seat belt sign remained on. So whether it was incorrectly predicted or not, it turned out there was no impact of the weather on the service time available.

Having set out what they were going to do one of the crew came up straight away once we were up and they therefore had three crew serving from the start with two drinks trolleys. The crew member who served me was clearly not used to short routes since she poured about 2/3rds of the gin in to the glass and then proceeded to put the bottle with the remaining 1/3rd gin back in the tray until I asked her for it. You have to wonder what goes through some peoples minds sometimes - which doesn't seem to be very much.

Despite not actually having a reduced service time they still struggled to deliver drinks only to the 8/9 rows of club. The crew member who served me also spent a few minutes telling 2F that it was so rushed and they only got 10 minutes to serve which to anyone familiar with the route is utter rubbish. The timings are 32-35 minute flight time of which 10 minutes at the end to tidy away and secure and about 2-4 minutes at the start before they get up to prepare. Those of us familiar with the service pre covid will know many times when good crew completed the service with plenty of time to spare with both food and drink with plenty of time for a second drink after. Tbh I would be embarrassed if I were cabin crew on that one yesterday. However, what I have said before is that these failings to do a service will be raised by crew and the BA response will end up being that more elements of the service will be removed rather that seeing that it is a lack of crew training and that a full service should be possible.

As you can tell I really am not happy about that flight yesterday. Unfortunately whilst that was a particularly poor example, it is not an isolated one and over the last few months these short routes have been really poor. It is not a one off.
There's little point in complaining either. I got an empty apology for not receiving a drink, went back to them and told them it wasn't good enough and I wanted some form of compo/gesture of goodwill to make up for service not delivered; received an email today titled "Our final response" again apologising but that they think they've dealt with my case fairly.

The mind truly boggles.
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