bioblot

Is anyone else who flew to China, HK or Taiwan up to 2018 getting numerous spam calls from fake UK mobile numbers with a recorded message in Mandarin about a package at the Chinese embassy?

I know several people who have been getting these, and while it might have initially appeared as a data breach from the visa section of the embassy, it seems British Airways might be a more likely source.

They're highly annoying because there's no way to block them as they use a different number each time. It would be handy to have a slice of the Ł20million fine to cover the costs of changing my number, but that's not going to happen.

Prospero

Fortunately I am not being bothered by these spam calls. During the course of regular HKG and TPE visits I was inadvertently exposed to three separate data breaches: BA, Cathay Pacific, and Starwood

Ikaz

I have received quite a few of these calls over the past month or so yes.
I was impacted by the BA data breach and I also have a 2018 Chinese Visa/trip.

ajbrowc

My wife has been receiving these for the past 6+ months. We both travelled to China and HK in 2019 (not before). I have not received them however.

EDIT TO ADD: I thought it might be because she signed up to WeChat while we were there. Not sure if that's a common link?

cheshirepete

As a general point, unless I know I’m expecting an unfamiliar call, everything else not in my contacts I send to Voicemail. 99% of the time no message is ever left by these pests. If it was someone who knew you, they’d leave a message. It’s the only way to remove this distraction at the moment, until OFCOM perhaps have a rethink on allowing callers to disguise their number. Removing that ability would prevent a lot of Spam and Fraudulent calls I think. It wouldn’t stop ‘unknown callers’ but they always use to get sent to voicemail before the rules allowing disguised numbers was brought in.

Farringdon

I'm getting these every few days. I guessed that they were because I've used DiDi in China, but hadn't made the connection that they might be linked to the BA data breach.

itisme

I travelled March 2019 to Shanghai (not with ba but with Hong Kong airlines, left with Korean air) and since last week also getting these calls. The automated message also enters the voicemail.

very annoying as they seem regular Uk mobile numbers so easily fooled.

I do have a ba account & we chat but not sure which data breach it’s from. Surely if it was BA we would’ve been receiving more calls so far?

what are they gaining from these calls? It’s in Chinese so can’t even understand what they are saying.

plunet

I don't believe there is any link to BA in this case. I've checked with a few friends (all with links back to China) who get these calls in mandarin that usually start off on the premise that there is a delivery or something to do with the Chinese Embassy. Several of them have never flown with BA, yet get the calls. There is a definite link back to a Chinese based data breach, but I personally have WeChat, Didi, travelled several times to China, have a Chinese bank account, have applied for Chinese Visas, and to date do not get these calls. I was also implicated in the BA data breach.

If you get a CMLink UK SIM card, and don't port a number from another network onto the SIM card, you can be guaranteed to get these spam phone calls.

our_kid

Yes I get them - good for your Mandarin at least

ermis177

I do get them and I have been to Asia during 2018 a few times but never with BA. I am sure it’s not BA related.

HkCaGu

Everyone in Chinese speakers-rich US area codes has been getting these calls for years (well, they tapered off in 2020, but have since resurged). They then spread to less Chinese-y area codes. I guess they're spreading to other countries with considerable Chinese speakers. Nothing related to BA or any data leaks.

Woodbinerich

So have I. A mild mystery has been cleared up!

fastflyer

Not that it is any consolation, but my two NYC cell phones (I long ago left for Florida, but kept my NY numbers) receive dozens of Mandarin spam calls per year. Yes they both were in Hong Kong (and mainland China) albeit several years ago and via Cathay. The US carriers do a pretty poor job filtering out such crap, which has had the unanticipated side effect that almost nobody in the US answers their mobile phone nowadays, if the calling number is not already in contacts. Even businesses route inbound calls to voicemail. I will only answer an unknown call if it identifies from a few, known area codes where I have customers (like St. Louis and Connecticut).

For this reason alone, I would favor governments to institute a tiny tax for every outbound call regardless of source (VOIP, landline, individual cell)

sbs2716g

The numbers that appear on your caller id are spoofed. Any random numbers can appear n the numbers that they called are random.

Basically it does not relate to BA n it is a scam.
Many Asia countries such as Singapore, HKG , malaysia also receive such calls.

There is some old lady in HK who was cheated of HKD 254 million recently
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...nned-out-hk250


https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...han-69-million

For Singapore, they did introduce a smart way to identify these spoof call.
They ask the telcos to add a + sign to all overseas incoming call
so these spoof call will appear as +65xxxxxxxx.
If it is a local call, there won’t be any +65.

https://www.imda.gov.sg/-/media/Imda...alls.pdf?la=en

Cathay1101

Wait until you live in Hong Kong - that's a whole new level of spam calls!