Avios devaluation? Zone 1 now 9500 points?!?!?
Apr 30, 2021, 1:59 am
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Interesting that Iberia seems to be cheaper and can still buy a zone 1 flight for 4K avios and $39 in taxes...however using avios on BA it was actually cheaper to buy the flight outright as the taxes plus avios was actually more. Makes no sense. Guess I won’t be trying to earn BA points anytime soon
For reference here are all the rates after selecting your flight and clicking to the quote page - the £17.50 rate corresponding to the old band rate.
9250 Avios + £ 0.50
8500 Avios + £ 4.50
7250 Avios + £ 9.00
4750 Avios + £ 17.50
3700 Avios + £ 32.50
2950 Avios + £ 42.50
Apr 30, 2021, 2:16 am
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Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 am
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So if the OP doesn’t qualify for RFS it would be
4750 avios & £25.79 booked via BA
4000 mile & $39.50 booked on iberia
saving 750 miles but cash element is £3 more.
Apr 30, 2021, 3:15 am
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Interesting that Iberia seems to be cheaper and can still buy a zone 1 flight for 4K avios and $39 in taxes...however using avios on BA it was actually cheaper to buy the flight outright as the taxes plus avios was actually more. Makes no sense. Guess I won’t be trying to earn BA points anytime soon
Apr 30, 2021, 3:25 am
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That is incorrect. £25.79 is what you would pay with with 9250 avios in the new system. At 4750 avios, the cash element would be £45.79. That is what makes using maximum avios as the new base for calculation of the cash component so spectacularly more expensive for non-RFS redemptions.
Apr 30, 2021, 3:35 am
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That is incorrect. £25.79 is what you would pay with with 9250 avios in the new system. At 4750 avios, the cash element would be £45.79. That is what makes using maximum avios as the new base for calculation of the cash component so spectacularly more expensive for non-RFS redemptions.
Last edited by KARFA; Apr 30, 2021 at 3:40 am
Apr 30, 2021, 4:26 am
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ah ok. I wasn’t sure whether that was a factor for the OP. In that case taxes/fees/charges would be £25.79 (using GLA-LHR as an example).
So if the OP doesn’t qualify for RFS it would be
4750 avios & £25.79 booked via BA
4000 mile & $39.50 booked on iberia
saving 750 miles but cash element is £3 more.
So if the OP doesn’t qualify for RFS it would be
4750 avios & £25.79 booked via BA
4000 mile & $39.50 booked on iberia
saving 750 miles but cash element is £3 more.
Apr 30, 2021, 5:19 am
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Whatever BA EC is doing with this RFS is a total mess. Not only on short haul, but also long haul.
As an example, you want to book from Tokyo to London (off-peak)?
-BAEC on BA: 35.000 WT or 39.000 WTP + £25
-BAEC on JAL: 31.000 + £26 in economy or 62.000 Avios in premium economy + £26
Now, if you book the exactly same BA flight via IBPLUS in WT: 19.500 Avios + £25 or WTP 39.000 Avios + £25
Essentially, for being loyal to BAEC, you are being penalised by 15.500 Avios for flying BA (in economy).
With the whole RFS system, they've lost the plot.
As an example, you want to book from Tokyo to London (off-peak)?
-BAEC on BA: 35.000 WT or 39.000 WTP + £25
-BAEC on JAL: 31.000 + £26 in economy or 62.000 Avios in premium economy + £26
Now, if you book the exactly same BA flight via IBPLUS in WT: 19.500 Avios + £25 or WTP 39.000 Avios + £25
Essentially, for being loyal to BAEC, you are being penalised by 15.500 Avios for flying BA (in economy).
With the whole RFS system, they've lost the plot.