Fuel surcharge on AA award?

Old Feb 22, 2021, 1:31 pm
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Fuel surcharge on AA award?

I'm afraid this must have been discussed already, I just found a fuel surcharge when redeeming AA flights using BA avios miles, from USA departure to Seoul, except non-stop itinerary:
ICN-DFW fee $42, ICN-DFW-ICN roundtrip fee: $47
ICN-DFW-IND fee $47, ICN-IND-ICN roundtrip fee: $53
DFW-ICN fee $5.60, DFW-ICN-DFW roundtrip fee: $47

So far everything looks fine, but then:

IND-DFW-ICN oneway fee $163
IND-ICN-IND roundtrip fee $365

Tried to get help from BA but they quote the same fee with the website for the IND-ICN one-way itinerary. Searched ITAmatrix website - the higher fees is due to the fuel surcharge. Hope this is just a glitch that will be fixed soon.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 1:49 pm
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I price checked an economy class IND-INC via DFW on AA using ITA Matrix. The extras (surcharges, taxes, fees etc) corroborate with the round trip figure BA quoted

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Old Feb 22, 2021, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Prospero
I price checked an economy class IND-INC via DFW on AA using ITA Matrix. The extras (surcharges, taxes, fees etc) corroborate with the round trip figure BA quoted
Yes, I thought there's no surcharge on AA award using BA avios, but I guess I was wrong. It's weird that nonstop (DFW-ICN only) is waived.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by bobbybrown
Yes, I thought there's no surcharge on AA award using BA avios, but I guess I was wrong. It's weird that nonstop (DFW-ICN only) is waived.
I think it’s just on (US) domestic awards
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 5:17 pm
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fuel surcharge
It's not a fuel surcharge, it is a carrier-imposed surcharge.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by bobbybrown
Yes, I thought there's no surcharge on AA award using BA avios, but I guess I was wrong. It's weird that nonstop (DFW-ICN only) is waived.
There is still a wad of extras to pay on AA’s non stop DFW-ICN. These would not normally be waived on a BAEC redemption
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Prospero
There is still a wad of extras to pay on AA’s non stop DFW-ICN. These would not normally be waived on a BAEC redemption
I understand that. But fee or tax for AA flight award has been identical between redeeming AA miles and BA miles for US-Asia (as well as US domestic) until now. And according to ITA matrix, DFW-ICN has the same extra fees including the "carrier-imposed surcharge" of $130 but BA doesn't charge it on the non-stop. All are surprising to me but I must be in the minority here. Appreciate your help, though.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Benj
I think it’s just on (US) domestic awards
It doesn't appear so because domestic-only AA award costs $5.60. It looks like all those fees of ~$160 are added only if a domestic flight is added to the longhaul (DFW-ICN) flight.
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 2:34 am
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Originally Posted by bobbybrown
It doesn't appear so because domestic-only AA award costs $5.60. It looks like all those fees of ~$160 are added only if a domestic flight is added to the longhaul (DFW-ICN) flight.
Make 2 bookings as AA will also protect you across separate bookings. Something that BA still officially refuses to do.
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 2:57 am
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If this is a revenue booking there may be fare differences which outweigh any TFC differences booking separately or as one booking. However, putting that aside and just looking at TFC:

IND-DFW rtn
Taxes per passenger US$47.36
Surcharges per passenger US$0.00
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Total TFC - US$47.36

DFW-ICN rtn
Taxes per passenger US$90.55
Surcharges per passenger US$260.00
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Total TFC - US$350.55

Total TFC paying separately US$397.91

IND-ICN rtn
Taxes per passenger US$105.15
Surcharges per passenger US$260.00
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Total TFC - US$365.15


I​​​​​f you booked the domestic and long haul in the OP's example separately you would pay the same fuel surcharge overall. You would pay a bit more in fees though so end up ~US$30 worse off.
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