Last edit by: alexwuk
September 2021 update:
Suspensions of all remaining LGW short haul services further extended to 26 March 2022, with the exception of: one daily MAN-LGW-MAN rotation (BA2509/BA2508) and one daily GLA-LGW-GLA rotation (BA2511/BA2512)
Many LGW short haul routes will continue to operate from LHR in the meantime; exceptions are ALC/CGN/DBV/GOA, which have been suspended until 26th March 2022 ie these destinations will not operated by BA this Winter.
Suspensions of all remaining LGW short haul services further extended to 26 March 2022, with the exception of: one daily MAN-LGW-MAN rotation (BA2509/BA2508) and one daily GLA-LGW-GLA rotation (BA2511/BA2512)
Many LGW short haul routes will continue to operate from LHR in the meantime; exceptions are ALC/CGN/DBV/GOA, which have been suspended until 26th March 2022 ie these destinations will not operated by BA this Winter.
BA at Gatwick 2021
#16
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: BA/VS Gold
Posts: 276
By the time a runway would be built traffic levels are likely to be up again so I'm not sure that's right.....
#17
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold; FB Silver; SPG; IHG Gold
Posts: 2,981
I am sure it will re-open in some shape of form at some point. It will be a reduced and limited service initially but will build back up over a period of months and years. Indeed, given that Gatters is less dependent on business travel than LHR, it may even be better placed to bounce back. I don't think the good British people are that keen on staycations (notwithstanding the beautiful countryside we have) and you certainly can/t get tanned or Brahms & Liszt via Zoom
#18
Join Date: Dec 2018
Programs: BA
Posts: 138
I'm not sure what limitations are on the EHIC now but I would expect travel insurance/medical cover will be very big limiting factor that will be pushing lots of people towards a staycation this year.
#20
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,439
I don’t think BA will leave LGW. We’ve been here before and they just trim back the network and make a few cost cutting changes. I think it would be a short sighted move, especially given how many slots they’ve recently picked up at Gatwick.
There will be demand for holidays after this, as most will have missed their summer holiday this year, and BA will want to tap into this market. It was after the financial crisis in 2008 that BA launched the Maldives and Punta Cana to get into the premium leisure market. A few will probably move to LHR, some others cut, but ultimately I think it will still be the main bucket and spade base.
I also have seen some messages and information from BA and to me it doesn’t seem like they’ve said Gatwick may not open again. It seemed to be, we don’t know when we will be able to resume operations again (aka when will this be over). Probably more of a story to get readers.
There will be demand for holidays after this, as most will have missed their summer holiday this year, and BA will want to tap into this market. It was after the financial crisis in 2008 that BA launched the Maldives and Punta Cana to get into the premium leisure market. A few will probably move to LHR, some others cut, but ultimately I think it will still be the main bucket and spade base.
I also have seen some messages and information from BA and to me it doesn’t seem like they’ve said Gatwick may not open again. It seemed to be, we don’t know when we will be able to resume operations again (aka when will this be over). Probably more of a story to get readers.
#21
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver Seigneur des Horaires des Mucci.
Posts: 2,047
Makes sense to hibernate at the moment
Remove as many cost centres as possible
Get rid of staff , remove infrastructure
When the green shoots appear almost start from scratch , this probably works out cheaper
in the long run
LGW ltd must be nervous though?? They will probably need bailing out
Remove as many cost centres as possible
Get rid of staff , remove infrastructure
When the green shoots appear almost start from scratch , this probably works out cheaper
in the long run
LGW ltd must be nervous though?? They will probably need bailing out
#22
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,345
I don’t think BA will leave LGW. We’ve been here before and they just trim back the network and make a few cost cutting changes. I think it would be a short sighted move, especially given how many slots they’ve recently picked up at Gatwick.
There will be demand for holidays after this, as most will have missed their summer holiday this year, and BA will want to tap into this market. It was after the financial crisis in 2008 that BA launched the Maldives and Punta Cana to get into the premium leisure market. A few will probably move to LHR, some others cut, but ultimately I think it will still be the main bucket and spade base.
I also have seen some messages and information from BA and to me it doesn’t seem like they’ve said Gatwick may not open again. It seemed to be, we don’t know when we will be able to resume operations again (aka when will this be over). Probably more of a story to get readers.
There will be demand for holidays after this, as most will have missed their summer holiday this year, and BA will want to tap into this market. It was after the financial crisis in 2008 that BA launched the Maldives and Punta Cana to get into the premium leisure market. A few will probably move to LHR, some others cut, but ultimately I think it will still be the main bucket and spade base.
I also have seen some messages and information from BA and to me it doesn’t seem like they’ve said Gatwick may not open again. It seemed to be, we don’t know when we will be able to resume operations again (aka when will this be over). Probably more of a story to get readers.
Can anyone explain to me how the slots work eg I am interested in our flight LGW to PFO in September, if Gatwick closes can BA transfer this to LHR or do they lose the landing slot at PFO altogether? Thanks
#23
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Programs: IC Hotels Spire, BA Gold
Posts: 8,667
I really hope you are right and they are trying to get Governement support as it will mean more redundancies for staff at the airport too in shops and security etc etc. I read people are booking/transferring lots of summer holidays to later in the year as they still want to go away at some point me included, and that business trips may suffer more due to people finding new ways of working.
Can anyone explain to me how the slots work eg I am interested in our flight LGW to PFO in September, if Gatwick closes can BA transfer this to LHR or do they lose the landing slot at PFO altogether? Thanks
Can anyone explain to me how the slots work eg I am interested in our flight LGW to PFO in September, if Gatwick closes can BA transfer this to LHR or do they lose the landing slot at PFO altogether? Thanks
#24
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,345
For my 2 holidays cancelled I found the refund experience no problem, didn't have to do anything actually it all happened automatically so it does work well sometimes.
#25
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,439
I really hope you are right and they are trying to get Governement support as it will mean more redundancies for staff at the airport too in shops and security etc etc. I read people are booking/transferring lots of summer holidays to later in the year as they still want to go away at some point me included, and that business trips may suffer more due to people finding new ways of working.
Can anyone explain to me how the slots work eg I am interested in our flight LGW to PFO in September, if Gatwick closes can BA transfer this to LHR or do they lose the landing slot at PFO altogether? Thanks
Can anyone explain to me how the slots work eg I am interested in our flight LGW to PFO in September, if Gatwick closes can BA transfer this to LHR or do they lose the landing slot at PFO altogether? Thanks
#26
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 232
Oh well...at least the good news is that this has all (very finally) put an end to the debate on whether or not a new runway should be built...looks like Boris made the right call.
Now if he could just make the same call and cancel HS2 he'll have Ł100bn plus to spend on the NHS and in particular the social service sector that been so starved.
Off topic I know...
Chris
Now if he could just make the same call and cancel HS2 he'll have Ł100bn plus to spend on the NHS and in particular the social service sector that been so starved.
Off topic I know...
Chris
#28
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Programs: IC Hotels Spire, BA Gold
Posts: 8,667
There is a whole thread in this forum on this topic and how BA are not automatically refunding cash anymore....you have seen that?
#29
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warwickshire England
Posts: 642
BA are not the biggest user of Gatwick, it could move long haul to Heathrow and then move European to other airports?
would this be a way of. Consolidating contracts within BA into a single?
Gatwick I’m sure can survive as a regional airport, just like Birmingham has had to.
With BA retiring their large passenger volume aircraft lije the A380 and 747, would a leaner smaller capacity based aircraft range work at Heathrow? Would it give them more flexibility?
would this be a way of. Consolidating contracts within BA into a single?
Gatwick I’m sure can survive as a regional airport, just like Birmingham has had to.
With BA retiring their large passenger volume aircraft lije the A380 and 747, would a leaner smaller capacity based aircraft range work at Heathrow? Would it give them more flexibility?