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This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
#1081
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: BER
Programs: OW Sapphire, *A Gold
Posts: 982
I am afraid PGberkshire is correct though. A b2b is definitely not a transit. Transit is normally deemed to be arriving from country A and going on to a different country B, not returning to country A.
The fact you have got away with it doesn't change that I am afraid. You are running a risk the airline will turn round and say you are not doing a transit and deny you boarding, and you would have no recourse for that since they would be correct. We have seen exactly this issue before in certain circumstances like trying to do a LHR-DME-LHR without a visa because someone tries to rely on the transit allowance.
The fact you have got away with it doesn't change that I am afraid. You are running a risk the airline will turn round and say you are not doing a transit and deny you boarding, and you would have no recourse for that since they would be correct. We have seen exactly this issue before in certain circumstances like trying to do a LHR-DME-LHR without a visa because someone tries to rely on the transit allowance.
The quarantine decision is not made by the border police, but by the health authority, and if you can show them that you are leaving the country, by plane, car, train whatever, that counts as an exemption from quarantine. There is nothing to get away with, this is how things work, written on the Romanian foreign affairs website.
#1082
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,498
I am afraid PGberkshire is correct though. A b2b is definitely not a transit. Transit is normally deemed to be arriving from country A and going on to a different country B, not returning to country A.
The fact you have got away with it doesn't change that I am afraid. You are running a risk the airline will turn round and say you are not doing a transit and deny you boarding, and you would have no recourse for that since they would be correct. We have seen exactly this issue before in certain circumstances like trying to do a LHR-DME-LHR without a visa because someone tries to rely on the transit allowance.
The fact you have got away with it doesn't change that I am afraid. You are running a risk the airline will turn round and say you are not doing a transit and deny you boarding, and you would have no recourse for that since they would be correct. We have seen exactly this issue before in certain circumstances like trying to do a LHR-DME-LHR without a visa because someone tries to rely on the transit allowance.
In my humble opinion b2b is a transit, unless country in question specifies transit as a connection to a third country.
#1083
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,893
The quarantine decision is not made by the border police, but by the health authority, and if you can show them that you are leaving the country, by plane, car, train whatever, that counts as an exemption from quarantine. There is nothing to get away with, this is how things work, written on the Romanian foreign affairs website.
#1084
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,498
#1085
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,185
I think the main issue is related to BA staff checking documents for self-isolation ( if Romania has such thing ) rather than the interpretation of immigration officials in Bucharest.
#1086
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: BER
Programs: OW Sapphire, *A Gold
Posts: 982
There are no documents to check regarding self-isolation though, therefore no risk of being denied boarding.
#1087
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: BCN
Programs: BA GGL, IB, LH, IHG Gold
Posts: 582
As a practical matter, you arrive into OTP from UK, are not otherwise exempt from quarantine requirement, and split hairs with the Romanians about B2B-is-a-transit-or-not, and finally they say you have to go self isolate (14 days). You go to your hotel, spend the night, and check out the next day. Thereafter, go to OTP to catch your flight the next morning back to LHR.
Would you have broken any rules by acting thus?
Would you have broken any rules by acting thus?
#1088
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Aspen, CO
Posts: 792
Bumping this thread, but I posted a pretty good AA A/F fare in the Premium Fare Deals subforum. 580 TP's. Same day turns available for those crazy enough to do one Enjoy!
#1089
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
*smh*
Last edited by Nephoi; Sep 10, 2021 at 2:05 am
#1091
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: BER
Programs: OW Sapphire, *A Gold
Posts: 982
fare is also avail for 300 bucks more without a 7 day min stay.
already in the queue for aa call center. 16 minutes ...
i guess its not around long time.
cant book it online. thats not a good sign
edit: Agent couldnt get a price /a combinable fare because IB segments come back as "NN"
already in the queue for aa call center. 16 minutes ...
i guess its not around long time.
cant book it online. thats not a good sign
edit: Agent couldnt get a price /a combinable fare because IB segments come back as "NN"
#1092
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
but thanks for reminding me of TP run 101.
for the record: I think its also not a good sign to publish fares like this here. but does it count what I think?
#1093
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: BER
Programs: OW Sapphire, *A Gold
Posts: 982
it couldn't. I tried for over an hour. AA.com won't let me book it after an hour of testing. I enter the flights, I use power tools, I get routed to aa.com, I enter pax data, I enter credit card data, pop up "your price changed old price: 996 USD, new price 1180 USD confirm? search new flights" I click on confirm, system works, I get routed back to the page to enter pax data and can click on pay now. I click pay now. system works, I get routed back to the page to enter pax data and can click on pay now. I click pay now.system works, I get routed back to the page to enter pax data and can click on pay now. I click pay now.system works, I get routed back to the page to enter pax data and can click on pay now. I click pay now.
but thanks for reminding me of TP run 101.
for the record: I think its also not a good sign to publish fares like this here. but does it count what I think?
but thanks for reminding me of TP run 101.
for the record: I think its also not a good sign to publish fares like this here. but does it count what I think?
#1094
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
im so sorry I didn’t meet your standard.
#1095
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 213
Did anyone manage to book CMN-MAD-LHR-MIA?