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This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
#3932
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
If you're looking at the US West Coast the cheapest starting point is at present I think Budapest. There are decent fares out of Dublin quite often. Typically the most TP are earned by going to the east coast and then the west coast as separate flights. So something like DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-SFO adding the short hop to San Francisco at the end is an easy extra 40TP. Most of the cheaper US fares allow two flights in the USA, so best to take advantage of that. You don't have to come back the same route, I'll do the LHR-JFK-LAX on the outbound, but return LAX-LHR losing TP but feeling better with the longer overnight flight, but that's the sort of thing to get you thrown out of TP club.
Good luck.
#3933
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester
Programs: BA Gold, VS Gold
Posts: 290
Booking AA prime flights
Hello,
Finally managed to put together my first TP but i"m having problems booking it. It's all AA flight numbers but mix of AA and BA metal. I called BA to book but after an hour on the phone they could not get it to work - the agent couldn't see the I-fares I could see on ITA (I even refreshed my search while on the phone and it was still showing available and I am using LHR as sales city). They then tried the best buy button which I suggested might not work - and it didn't either.
The second agent said they could not book AA flight booking only and I needed to book via AA. Is that correct?
I can get it to book in EUR on AA via ITA matrix power tools but I'd rather not pay in Euros - plus rather deal with BA call centres if there are schedule changes. Am I stuck with doing via the power tools or should I try BA again?
Thanks for you help.
Ice
Finally managed to put together my first TP but i"m having problems booking it. It's all AA flight numbers but mix of AA and BA metal. I called BA to book but after an hour on the phone they could not get it to work - the agent couldn't see the I-fares I could see on ITA (I even refreshed my search while on the phone and it was still showing available and I am using LHR as sales city). They then tried the best buy button which I suggested might not work - and it didn't either.
The second agent said they could not book AA flight booking only and I needed to book via AA. Is that correct?
I can get it to book in EUR on AA via ITA matrix power tools but I'd rather not pay in Euros - plus rather deal with BA call centres if there are schedule changes. Am I stuck with doing via the power tools or should I try BA again?
Thanks for you help.
Ice
#3934
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: England
Programs: BAEC Gold, UA Mileage Plus, Hotels.com Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Pizza Express Gold
Posts: 602
Hello,
The second agent said they could not book AA flight booking only and I needed to book via AA. Is that correct?
I can get it to book in EUR on AA via ITA matrix power tools but I'd rather not pay in Euros - plus rather deal with BA call centres if there are schedule changes. Am I stuck with doing via the power tools or should I try BA again?
Thanks for you help.
Ice
The second agent said they could not book AA flight booking only and I needed to book via AA. Is that correct?
I can get it to book in EUR on AA via ITA matrix power tools but I'd rather not pay in Euros - plus rather deal with BA call centres if there are schedule changes. Am I stuck with doing via the power tools or should I try BA again?
Thanks for you help.
Ice
If you can still see it available then worth trying once more, but the more BA flight numbers the better.
#3935
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester
Programs: BA Gold, VS Gold
Posts: 290
Thank you. That’s very useful to know. BA flight numbers were a couple of hundred more. Might give it another try 👍🏼
#3936
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: England
Programs: BAEC Gold, UA Mileage Plus, Hotels.com Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Pizza Express Gold
Posts: 602
I've got a run booked next year BUD-HNL return, booked with BA codes on BA tickets. When ( or if) I get some flight changes, is there any reason I can't use the 300 mile change of destination to move the return starting point to a different island?
#3937
Join Date: Aug 2022
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1
Could you tell for what dates and how much please you booked this run?
#3938
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP/LTP, BA GGL/CCR/GfL, HH D/LTD, SPG/MR Plat/LTP
Posts: 10,075
#3939
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold; Virgin FF; United Airlines; American Airlines; and was frequent c/c churner - RIP!
Posts: 940
Sitting in T1 lounge at DUB waiting to start my first TP run to LAX via LHR and BOS. Security at DUB was a breeze (admittedly Fast Track) at 06.00. LHR yesterday for my positioning flight was busy but no holdups. The nightmare stories of life at airports appears to have eased or have I just been lucky for each of the five flights I’ve taken in last few months?
#3940
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: England
Programs: BAEC Gold, UA Mileage Plus, Hotels.com Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Pizza Express Gold
Posts: 602
#3941
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 910
Hello,
Finally managed to put together my first TP but i"m having problems booking it. It's all AA flight numbers but mix of AA and BA metal. I called BA to book but after an hour on the phone they could not get it to work - the agent couldn't see the I-fares I could see on ITA (I even refreshed my search while on the phone and it was still showing available and I am using LHR as sales city). They then tried the best buy button which I suggested might not work - and it didn't either.
The second agent said they could not book AA flight booking only and I needed to book via AA. Is that correct?
I can get it to book in EUR on AA via ITA matrix power tools but I'd rather not pay in Euros - plus rather deal with BA call centres if there are schedule changes. Am I stuck with doing via the power tools or should I try BA again?
Thanks for you help.
Ice
Finally managed to put together my first TP but i"m having problems booking it. It's all AA flight numbers but mix of AA and BA metal. I called BA to book but after an hour on the phone they could not get it to work - the agent couldn't see the I-fares I could see on ITA (I even refreshed my search while on the phone and it was still showing available and I am using LHR as sales city). They then tried the best buy button which I suggested might not work - and it didn't either.
The second agent said they could not book AA flight booking only and I needed to book via AA. Is that correct?
I can get it to book in EUR on AA via ITA matrix power tools but I'd rather not pay in Euros - plus rather deal with BA call centres if there are schedule changes. Am I stuck with doing via the power tools or should I try BA again?
Thanks for you help.
Ice
Have you tried calling the BA call centre for the country you're departing from? They normally speak English and can ticket it for you.
#3942
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver (temp demotion), *A Silver, HH Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 490
Help wanted please. I'm looking for ~week in Oregon next May as a TP run/holiday. My aim is to go just after May 9 to get the TPs into the new year (I will drop to Silver at the end of June).
The routing is obviously BUD-Europe-EastCoast-WestCoast-hop (eg BUD-LHR-NYC-LAX-PDX). I've been playing with routings (and stopped yesterday because it was taking so much time; and this is partly speculative at the moment).
In terms of TPs and price (£1450) I'm ok with the results below but I am not happy with the overnight on a recliner back from PDX.
Is there a way on Matrix to input a via routing such as via 'LAX or SFO' because at the moment, although my search is BUD to any of of NYC, BOS, CLT, PHL airports, it seems a painfully slow way to be trying combinations when matrix is throwing up routes via ORD or DFW, which I don't want. Alternatively, can I shortcut this and put in a fare code or something? I am happy to pay a little more for lie flat and can definitely flex my days and routes.
The routing is obviously BUD-Europe-EastCoast-WestCoast-hop (eg BUD-LHR-NYC-LAX-PDX). I've been playing with routings (and stopped yesterday because it was taking so much time; and this is partly speculative at the moment).
In terms of TPs and price (£1450) I'm ok with the results below but I am not happy with the overnight on a recliner back from PDX.
Is there a way on Matrix to input a via routing such as via 'LAX or SFO' because at the moment, although my search is BUD to any of of NYC, BOS, CLT, PHL airports, it seems a painfully slow way to be trying combinations when matrix is throwing up routes via ORD or DFW, which I don't want. Alternatively, can I shortcut this and put in a fare code or something? I am happy to pay a little more for lie flat and can definitely flex my days and routes.
Last edited by SavvyTravel; Aug 12, 2022 at 3:52 am Reason: clarity
#3943
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
SavvyTravel
This seems to offer some options I like more than what you've found. It's not clear if you want to go to Seattle and come back from Portland, or that was just a compromise as you looked for options. You could change LAX to LAX,SFO but that seemed to throw a spanner in the Matrix works. Sometimes I find the more complicated the less chance of what I want. It's better to do two searches, one with LAX and one with SFO, but that maybe my own shortcomings. Avoid PHL and CLT as you won't get lie flats. I find that I class on the Transcons is always the limiting factor.
Edit: Having issues with edit and posting at the moment. Do from BUD to PDX and in routing put LHR JFK,BOS LAX and for return LAX JFK,BOS LHR produced option with lie flat in the £1540 range for me.
This seems to offer some options I like more than what you've found. It's not clear if you want to go to Seattle and come back from Portland, or that was just a compromise as you looked for options. You could change LAX to LAX,SFO but that seemed to throw a spanner in the Matrix works. Sometimes I find the more complicated the less chance of what I want. It's better to do two searches, one with LAX and one with SFO, but that maybe my own shortcomings. Avoid PHL and CLT as you won't get lie flats. I find that I class on the Transcons is always the limiting factor.
Edit: Having issues with edit and posting at the moment. Do from BUD to PDX and in routing put LHR JFK,BOS LAX and for return LAX JFK,BOS LHR produced option with lie flat in the £1540 range for me.
Last edited by dougzz; Aug 12, 2022 at 4:15 am Reason: shrink image to more managable size.
#3944
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: England
Programs: BAEC Gold, UA Mileage Plus, Hotels.com Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Pizza Express Gold
Posts: 602
Help wanted please. I'm looking for ~week in Oregon next May as a TP run/holiday. My aim is to go just after May 9 to get the TPs into the new year (I will drop to Silver at the end of June).
The routing is obviously BUD-Europe-EastCoast-WestCoast-hop (eg BUD-LHR-NYC-LAX-PDX). I've been playing with routings (and stopped yesterday because it was taking so much time; and this is partly speculative at the moment).
In terms of TPs and price (£1450) I'm ok with the results below but I am not happy with the overnight on a recliner back from PDX.
Is there a way on Matrix to input a via routing such as via 'LAX or SFO' because at the moment, although my search is BUD to any of of NYC, BOS, CLT, PHL airports, it seems a painfully slow way to be trying combinations when matrix is throwing up routes via ORD or DFW, which I don't want. Alternatively, can I shortcut this and put in a fare code or something? I am happy to pay a little more for lie flat and can definitely flex my days and routes.
The routing is obviously BUD-Europe-EastCoast-WestCoast-hop (eg BUD-LHR-NYC-LAX-PDX). I've been playing with routings (and stopped yesterday because it was taking so much time; and this is partly speculative at the moment).
In terms of TPs and price (£1450) I'm ok with the results below but I am not happy with the overnight on a recliner back from PDX.
Is there a way on Matrix to input a via routing such as via 'LAX or SFO' because at the moment, although my search is BUD to any of of NYC, BOS, CLT, PHL airports, it seems a painfully slow way to be trying combinations when matrix is throwing up routes via ORD or DFW, which I don't want. Alternatively, can I shortcut this and put in a fare code or something? I am happy to pay a little more for lie flat and can definitely flex my days and routes.
#3945
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver (temp demotion), *A Silver, HH Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 490