Feb 6, 2021, 5:40 am
Last edit by: Prospero
This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
Jan 22, 2022, 12:45 pm
#2086
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Start NYC
End ORD
Routing AA AA AA
Business Class
Then use the calendar view
There's a £490 return there for 240 tier points so you are more in the premium fares area, than tier point running
Last edited by E14 26C; Jan 22, 2022 at 12:53 pm
Jan 22, 2022, 1:18 pm
#2087
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 2,447
No, the airline will re-ticket it as MCT is 2hrs. So keep that in mind. Doesn't necessarily stop you booking it, though, but I've had a 1h59m automatically rebooked before (annoying as it took a mere 35mins).
Jan 22, 2022, 1:49 pm
#2089
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: oneworld, * Alliance, Marriott Bonvoy, HHonors, WoH
Posts: 2,118
This is what itamatrix is great for www.matrix.itasoftware.com
Start NYC
End ORD
Routing AA AA AA
Business Class
Then use the calendar view
There's a £490 return there for 240 tier points so you are more in the premium fares area, than tier point running
Start NYC
End ORD
Routing AA AA AA
Business Class
Then use the calendar view
There's a £490 return there for 240 tier points so you are more in the premium fares area, than tier point running
It does not open when www is written.
Jan 22, 2022, 3:43 pm
#2090
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: South Glos, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver/OW Sapphire
Posts: 1,157
1. Yes, Sharklets denotes the three class Airbus A321T at American Airlines. I also believe all flights JFK-LAX on AA use that aircraft pretty much exclusively, so you're good to go there.
2. Yes, should be plenty of time to connect.
I'll leave the remaining answers to others, but the B2B thread will have the info on your MAD B2B question
2. Yes, should be plenty of time to connect.
I'll leave the remaining answers to others, but the B2B thread will have the info on your MAD B2B question
Jan 22, 2022, 6:06 pm
#2091
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 72
Hey guys. Just some advice if possible.
I booked the CMN to Miami via MAD and LHR - all looks ok schedule wise on the outbound. This is for mid may.
on the return my connection MIA JFK LHR at jfk is 50 mins, still showing as booked. Is there any advice what to do here. I added JFK for max tier points on the way back.
thanks in advance.
I booked the CMN to Miami via MAD and LHR - all looks ok schedule wise on the outbound. This is for mid may.
on the return my connection MIA JFK LHR at jfk is 50 mins, still showing as booked. Is there any advice what to do here. I added JFK for max tier points on the way back.
thanks in advance.
Jan 23, 2022, 1:51 am
#2092
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/GFl, HH Diamond, BW Diamond, Virgin Voyages Deep Blue Extra, Blue Peter Badge Holder
Posts: 3,937
Hey guys. Just some advice if possible.
I booked the CMN to Miami via MAD and LHR - all looks ok schedule wise on the outbound. This is for mid may.
on the return my connection MIA JFK LHR at jfk is 50 mins, still showing as booked. Is there any advice what to do here. I added JFK for max tier points on the way back.
thanks in advance.
I booked the CMN to Miami via MAD and LHR - all looks ok schedule wise on the outbound. This is for mid may.
on the return my connection MIA JFK LHR at jfk is 50 mins, still showing as booked. Is there any advice what to do here. I added JFK for max tier points on the way back.
thanks in advance.
Personally I would see if there is a later flight that I can’t connect onto and ask for it to be changed assuming that this connection is due to a shift in time of one of your flights- this would be free to change.
if it’s not due to a shift in flight times and you booked with this connection, provided it is on one ticket you are protected- but be armed with alternative connections- if you’ll be late departing, you can ask AA at MIA to either put you on a direct flight or to connect to an AA flight which will be easier as you don’t need to repass security.
Good luck.
Jan 23, 2022, 3:19 am
#2093
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lincolnshire, UK
Programs: BA GGL - maybe only briefly!
Posts: 1,378
Jan 23, 2022, 3:42 am
#2094
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,409
Hey guys. Just some advice if possible.
I booked the CMN to Miami via MAD and LHR - all looks ok schedule wise on the outbound. This is for mid may.
on the return my connection MIA JFK LHR at jfk is 50 mins, still showing as booked. Is there any advice what to do here. I added JFK for max tier points on the way back.
thanks in advance.
I booked the CMN to Miami via MAD and LHR - all looks ok schedule wise on the outbound. This is for mid may.
on the return my connection MIA JFK LHR at jfk is 50 mins, still showing as booked. Is there any advice what to do here. I added JFK for max tier points on the way back.
thanks in advance.
If AA, easy really but could be a 10 min walk if the gates on other side.
As an aside the MCT is 1 hr 15 min JFK LHR if connecting to BA from AA.
Jan 23, 2022, 6:22 am
#2095
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Location: Istanbul, Turkey
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Posts: 14,185
It's probably an AA-AA connection based on the connection time, in addition AA has not yet updated their US domestic schedule for flights after 5 April 2022 so the OP would have at least one round of schedule change coming up for the MIA-JFK flight.
Jan 23, 2022, 6:46 pm
#2096
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 72
correct it’s AA/AA. When do they usually update. Thanks everyone else so far.
Jan 24, 2022, 1:02 am
#2097
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,842
Sunday 0000 DFW time. that's 6am in the morning in the UK on a Sunday. the schedules are usually updates for a month 6 to 8 weeks before. but even after that there are frequent changes on Sundays. like route improvements, route cancellations et cetera.
Jan 24, 2022, 7:30 am
#2098
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, HHonors Diamond, IHG Uninspired, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium, UK AMEX Plat
Posts: 2,151
Figured this is borderline an OK place for this query, and ought to feature most of the experts on the topic...
I booked a Paris to Hawaii flight in the flash sale last summer, and AA have finally made changes to flights/timings significant enough that I think I can ask for a new routing. Can't do that online, so will need to ring, and want to get my ducks in a row first.
The previous routing was CDG-LHR-LAX-HNL and return, as adding anything on the US east coast massively bumped the price when booking. Going out, retimings mean we now miss the connection in LA.
Can I try asking AA to rebook me as CDG-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL? If not, might they go for CDG-JFK-LAX-HNL? (The other half will likely kill me if I suggest routing via Helsinki too...)
Would like to try to get an extra 140 tier points each way if possible! I assume I should have all the flight numbers and timings for my preferred routing ready when I ring, anything else?
I booked a Paris to Hawaii flight in the flash sale last summer, and AA have finally made changes to flights/timings significant enough that I think I can ask for a new routing. Can't do that online, so will need to ring, and want to get my ducks in a row first.
The previous routing was CDG-LHR-LAX-HNL and return, as adding anything on the US east coast massively bumped the price when booking. Going out, retimings mean we now miss the connection in LA.
Can I try asking AA to rebook me as CDG-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL? If not, might they go for CDG-JFK-LAX-HNL? (The other half will likely kill me if I suggest routing via Helsinki too...)
Would like to try to get an extra 140 tier points each way if possible! I assume I should have all the flight numbers and timings for my preferred routing ready when I ring, anything else?
Jan 24, 2022, 7:33 am
#2099
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
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Figured this is borderline an OK place for this query, and ought to feature most of the experts on the topic...
I booked a Paris to Hawaii flight in the flash sale last summer, and AA have finally made changes to flights/timings significant enough that I think I can ask for a new routing. Can't do that online, so will need to ring, and want to get my ducks in a row first.
The previous routing was CDG-LHR-LAX-HNL and return, as adding anything on the US east coast massively bumped the price when booking. Going out, retimings mean we now miss the connection in LA.
Can I try asking AA to rebook me as CDG-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL? If not, might they go for CDG-JFK-LAX-HNL? (The other half will likely kill me if I suggest routing via Helsinki too...)
Would like to try to get an extra 140 tier points each way if possible! I assume I should have all the flight numbers and timings for my preferred routing ready when I ring, anything else?
I booked a Paris to Hawaii flight in the flash sale last summer, and AA have finally made changes to flights/timings significant enough that I think I can ask for a new routing. Can't do that online, so will need to ring, and want to get my ducks in a row first.
The previous routing was CDG-LHR-LAX-HNL and return, as adding anything on the US east coast massively bumped the price when booking. Going out, retimings mean we now miss the connection in LA.
Can I try asking AA to rebook me as CDG-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL? If not, might they go for CDG-JFK-LAX-HNL? (The other half will likely kill me if I suggest routing via Helsinki too...)
Would like to try to get an extra 140 tier points each way if possible! I assume I should have all the flight numbers and timings for my preferred routing ready when I ring, anything else?
Jan 24, 2022, 8:28 am
#2100
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: UK
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