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This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
#1532
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Hilton Honors Diamond, Virgin Flying Club Gold
Posts: 121
LAS-LAX-CLT-JFK // EWR-CLT-LAX-PHX for approx. 701 for 440TP which would be about 1.59 per TP which is reasonably considering it fits around my dates
#1533
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 885
Building up TPs using Alaska Airlines West Coast Routings
So here's a topic that's a bit of a twist on the idea of accumulating BAEC TPs on short haul AS itineraries in the Western US. One often reads about the TP runs in Europe that are done on OW aircraft, however it strikes me that there is real opportunity out there using Alaska Airlines metal, if one is located in the USA, where AS has a lot of short flights, usually offering "J" seats sold as AS First Class. Obviously one is going to need to get enough flights on BA Metal/BA marketed flights also, but for the person who doesn't constantly spend time traveling within or to Europe, it seems like there would be economical ways to get a bunch of TPs on AS without spending a whole lot of money. There is also a lot of potential to doing B2B flights, given that there is no border to cross and generally no covid documentation to check.
AS routinely presents both nonstop and connecting itineraries when one does fare searches, and while some of the connecting options are quite expensive, often they are not. AS also has frequent fare sales which occasionally include their First Class cabin.
Is anyone currently using this opportunity to augment their ascendance within the BAEC tiers?
AS routinely presents both nonstop and connecting itineraries when one does fare searches, and while some of the connecting options are quite expensive, often they are not. AS also has frequent fare sales which occasionally include their First Class cabin.
Is anyone currently using this opportunity to augment their ascendance within the BAEC tiers?
#1534
I assume you aren't thinking that AS "First Class" will earn first class TP, right?
It's still 40 TP for short segments.
It's still 40 TP for short segments.
#1535
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC GGL, BA Amex PP
Posts: 1,049
So here's a topic that's a bit of a twist on the idea of accumulating BAEC TPs on short haul AS itineraries in the Western US. One often reads about the TP runs in Europe that are done on OW aircraft, however it strikes me that there is real opportunity out there using Alaska Airlines metal, if one is located in the USA, where AS has a lot of short flights, usually offering "J" seats sold as AS First Class. Obviously one is going to need to get enough flights on BA Metal/BA marketed flights also, but for the person who doesn't constantly spend time traveling within or to Europe, it seems like there would be economical ways to get a bunch of TPs on AS without spending a whole lot of money. There is also a lot of potential to doing B2B flights, given that there is no border to cross and generally no covid documentation to check.
AS routinely presents both nonstop and connecting itineraries when one does fare searches, and while some of the connecting options are quite expensive, often they are not. AS also has frequent fare sales which occasionally include their First Class cabin.
Is anyone currently using this opportunity to augment their ascendance within the BAEC tiers?
AS routinely presents both nonstop and connecting itineraries when one does fare searches, and while some of the connecting options are quite expensive, often they are not. AS also has frequent fare sales which occasionally include their First Class cabin.
Is anyone currently using this opportunity to augment their ascendance within the BAEC tiers?
But - given I'm in LAX next week, I took advantage of AS prices to book LAX-SJC and LAX-SFO returns on the same day for 160 TP. I'm paying about 1.25 per TP as it's Thanksgiving week but on some dates (when I booked in September) it was as low as 1 per TP. It pushes me into Gold, so yes it does!
Last edited by nh1980; Nov 15, 2021 at 10:41 am
#1536
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 885
Picking a random day in February, the 15th, I spent a few minutes looking at options departing from Boise. The best I could come up with in 10 minutes was about $380 for 160 TPs obtained in one day, from BOI-SJC. I found another itinerary on another regional route that might get 160 TPs for $320, but it needs work.
If one uses the metric of GBP per TP, that comes out to around 1.76 GBP per TP, not great, but not horrible, either. I think with some effort, a person looking to augment their TP stash by several hundred TPs would be doable on short hops in the Western US. Since the AS route system is highly tethered to SEA, this probably wouldn't work for someone who isn't relatively close to Seattle.
#1537
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC GGL, BA Amex PP
Posts: 1,049
Some of the Boise, Spokane, Portland runs out of SEA can be quite good, some tight connection times but I suspect they are hardly the most complex of airports to navigate.
#1538
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 885
I hadn't used the grandeur of "augment my ascendance" in my thinking!
But - given I'm in LAX next week, I took advantage of AS prices to book LAX-SJC and LAX-SFO returns on the same day for 160 TP. I'm paying about 1.25 per TP as it's Thanksgiving week but on some dates (when I booked in September) it was as low as 1 per TP. It pushes me into Gold, so yes it does!
But - given I'm in LAX next week, I took advantage of AS prices to book LAX-SJC and LAX-SFO returns on the same day for 160 TP. I'm paying about 1.25 per TP as it's Thanksgiving week but on some dates (when I booked in September) it was as low as 1 per TP. It pushes me into Gold, so yes it does!
#1539
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,963
Over the past few days I've had several schedule changes from American Airlines for early- to mid-2022, some very significant and inconvenient (including an overnight flight from LAS to PHL followed by a 14-hour wait for my TATL).
In every case, I've managed to get straight through to AA Customer Service with no wait whatsoever and have had a very helpful and patient agent who has rebooked according to my wishes and even managed to increase the TPs earned.
I get the impression that the agents are so busy at the moment that if you have done your prior research and simply present them with flight numbers you would like to be rebooked onto then they are happy to do it without fuss. Otherwise you're going to have to repeatedly explain that you really don't want to be routed through DFW or ORD.
In every case, I've managed to get straight through to AA Customer Service with no wait whatsoever and have had a very helpful and patient agent who has rebooked according to my wishes and even managed to increase the TPs earned.
I get the impression that the agents are so busy at the moment that if you have done your prior research and simply present them with flight numbers you would like to be rebooked onto then they are happy to do it without fuss. Otherwise you're going to have to repeatedly explain that you really don't want to be routed through DFW or ORD.
#1540
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 2,442
Problem: I've booked with BA Holidays for double TP promotion so it'll take about 8hrs to get through to them on the phone line to request a change... :-|
Last edited by mmxbreaks; Nov 16, 2021 at 3:51 am
#1541
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Near Manchester
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 397
I've just had a new ticket emailed to me - I've been rebooked on the direct LHR-SFO and return! That's really not what I want, so going to have to ring up and request indirect routings!
#1542
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 2,442
I would have been rebooked onto the direct LHR-LAS, but no F is offered (an utterly bizarre operations decision on this route IMO!).
#1543
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,QR Platinum,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold, HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,180
Also folks, a kind reminder that if you have a BAH booking that would qualify for the double TP promo, you would need all segments issued under the BA marketing code. During schedule changes, please don't forget to pay detail to this attention.
#1544
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 2,442
Although having seen the ticket reissue email I've somehow got LHR-SFO JFK-LAS // LAS-LAX-LHR. No sign of SFO-LAS or separate PNR.
Might have to call again...
#1545
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 2,442
Then couldn't find any SFO or LAX routing, as said the Alaska and Skywest metal flights aren't eligible (didn't think this was a problem given available BA codes).
So it turned into LHR-DFW-LAS or nothing. Booked that.
But now there are two LAS-LAX flights in my return booking... Shambles? :-[[[[[