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Old Nov 10, 21, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by xenole View Post
Nice run. Might see if it's possible to reduce the number of overnights.

Either it's me yet again, or ITA Matrix keeps changing flight orders when you change date.
i.e. SOF to HEL on the 4th July. I change 4th July to the 5th July, and that flight now becomes No2 with HEL-SFO as the 1st flight.
I think matrix auto orders the flight segments based on date, so if you change the date of the first segment to be the same or later than the next segment, it switches the flights around.

Annoying isn't it?
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Old Nov 11, 21, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by xenole View Post
Nice run. Might see if it's possible to reduce the number of overnights.

Either it's me yet again, or ITA Matrix keeps changing flight orders when you change date.
i.e. SOF to HEL on the 4th July. I change 4th July to the 5th July, and that flight now becomes No2 with HEL-SFO as the 1st flight.
Yep, I found that the easiest thing to do when playing with dates is to change in reverser order. For example, I might add one week to every date starting with the last flight. That was the flight order remains intact.
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Old Nov 11, 21, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by billinghamn View Post
I think matrix auto orders the flight segments based on date, so if you change the date of the first segment to be the same or later than the next segment, it switches the flights around.

Annoying isn't it?
Less so when you understand how it works. If you then change the next segment to be later than what was the first segment, it will reorder them again. Basically, it amends everything in sequential date order so it's actually quite useful.
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Old Nov 11, 21, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot View Post
Hi,

Not sure if you have been to PHX before but I would just keep an eye out for the arrival and departure gates as although they are in the same terminal, there are 4 fingers to them with the moving travelators linking the fingers along the bottom;

https://www.skyharbor.com/docs/defau...sn=a33b9388_90

Worst would be a High B to High A transfer.

A half hour should be fine assuming an ontime arrival but you may not have a lot of time to linger.

Regards

TBS
Agreed, PHX can be a 10 yards across the corridor connection or a full on 2 terminal sprint, despite that its one of my favourites
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Old Nov 13, 21, 11:57 am
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Is anyone aware of anything that doesn't have a 180-day advance booking requirement? I'm being abandoned by my wife early next year and fancy getting CCR access back, so would look for something offering around 750TP if possible.

I've been playing around with ITA matrix for a while and can't see anything.
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Old Nov 13, 21, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Schiehallion View Post
Is anyone aware of anything that doesn't have a 180-day advance booking requirement? I'm being abandoned by my wife early next year and fancy getting CCR access back, so would look for something offering around 750TP if possible.

I've been playing around with ITA matrix for a while and can't see anything.
At the moment the only not 180-days advance fare with the most TPs possible that I have found is AMS-SJC for 1450/1500 euro, very little available departure dates between 23 and 31 December.
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For less TPs see BA/AA/IB AMS-CMH (Columbus, Ohio) and others sub 1.300 in Business in the premium deal forum
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Old Nov 13, 21, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Lefly View Post
At the moment the only not 180-days advance fare with the most TPs possible that I have found is AMS-SJC for 1450/1500 euro, very little available departure dates between 23 and 31 December.
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For less TPs see BA/AA/IB AMS-CMH (Columbus, Ohio) and others sub 1.300 in Business in the premium deal forum
If you have to overnight in the vicinity of SJC, plan to spend at least several hundred dollars for a hotel the class of an Ibis. I have canceled award bookings in the past that would have required me to sleep nearby, after looking into lodging rates. I guess there is always the terminal, if they will let you stay there overnight.
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Old Nov 14, 21, 2:10 am
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Now that people can come to the US, this is a bit more relevant. You can fly to SJU via DFW or AUS from a few cities for ~$600 in AA business. 140+40 each way TP.
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Old Nov 14, 21, 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by izzik View Post
Now that people can come to the US, this is a bit more relevant. You can fly to SJU via DFW or AUS from a few cities for ~$600 in AA business. 140+40 each way TP.
Is that approx $600 from the West Coast? Struggling to find fares to SJU via DFW or similar 140+40 routes for that price around June 2022.
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Old Nov 14, 21, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by RG1X View Post
I like that, not least because I can get to Malaga for next to nothing.
Lucky for some! and then there is me trying to look for a relatively acceptable fare from LHR-MAD-AGP for 120TP return which at sub 250 is very acceptable for positioning purposes and extra TP towards the 'hopeful GGL bank'.
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Old Nov 15, 21, 5:49 am
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I've a TP run in a bit of chaos for January at the moment. It's the return SFO-MIA-JFK-LHR-MAN leg. The JFK-LHR is cancelled, and there is no way to get an earlier flight from New York.

Does this open up one, or both options below?

1) Rebook a different route home, I've found SFO-hR-MAN so I keep the same number of tier points.
2) Overnight at MIA or JFK and get flights the next day, as long as it's not a 24 hour stopover?

I take it BA customer services are used to people not wanting to get rebooked onto more direct flights?
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Old Nov 15, 21, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by LancashireFlyer View Post
I've a TP run in a bit of chaos for January at the moment. It's the return SFO-MIA-JFK-LHR-MAN leg. The JFK-LHR is cancelled, and there is no way to get an earlier flight from New York.

Does this open up one, or both options below?

1) Rebook a different route home, I've found SFO-hR-MAN so I keep the same number of tier points.
2) Overnight at MIA or JFK and get flights the next day, as long as it's not a 24 hour stopover?

I take it BA customer services are used to people not wanting to get rebooked onto more direct flights?
Just to let you know for option 1; SFO-LHR-MAN I think you made a typo as that's definitely 180 TP's for the leg rather than 360 at the first place.
Yes, you could also overnight at MIA or JFK on your own expense if the layover is shorter than 24 hours.
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Old Nov 15, 21, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by LancashireFlyer View Post
I've a TP run in a bit of chaos for January at the moment. It's the return SFO-MIA-JFK-LHR-MAN leg. The JFK-LHR is cancelled, and there is no way to get an earlier flight from New York.

Does this open up one, or both options below?

1) Rebook a different route home, I've found SFO-hR-MAN so I keep the same number of tier points.
2) Overnight at MIA or JFK and get flights the next day, as long as it's not a 24 hour stopover?

I take it BA customer services are used to people not wanting to get rebooked onto more direct flights?
Option 1 depends mostly on the exact route chosen, but for what I know, and in my experience so far, both options can be available.
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Old Nov 15, 21, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by LancashireFlyer View Post
I take it BA customer services are used to people not wanting to get rebooked onto more direct flights?
I thought I had read a post on here by corporate-wage-slave that BA were not allowing indirect re-routing when direct was available. But I cant find it (or I was dreaming) - and 'direct' is too short a term for the FT search engine.
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Old Nov 15, 21, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by Sifu View Post
Is that approx $600 from the West Coast? Struggling to find fares to SJU via DFW or similar 140+40 routes for that price around June 2022.
For example, it is < $600 from Chicago until early February. <$700 until early May.
FYI, airfares in June will be more expensive due to the busy summer travel season.
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