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Old Jan 1, 2021, 8:29 am
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01 - If your flight is cancelled by BA:

Commercial booking: Your options are: cash refund OR Future Travel Voucher (FTV) OR rebooking OR Avios credit

Redemption booking: Your options are: full refund of cash and Avios OR FTV OR rebooking.

BA Holidays booking: You should be given a refund pro-actively.

If your flight is cancelled by BA - any flight in the PNR - you can get a full refund so long as you booked directly with BA. You can only get a refund by telephoning BA. Refunds are taking between a few hours to a few weeks to be repaid, depending on the sort of booking made. If you don't wish to travel you can opt for an FTV or eVoucher valid for travel until 30 April 2023 (now extended from April 2022 including existing FTVs), though flights more than 355 days away are not currently bookable - flights are enabled at 355 days before departure. Vouchers such as 2-4-1 are also thereby extended. You can do this even if the flight is operating. The best advice we can give is to delay opting for an eVoucher options until the last moment, since if BA cancel your flight you have more options. BA have also adjusted the Standard Customer Guidelines so that if BA cancel the flight you can be rebooked to anytime in 12 months after you originally bought the ticket, so long as there is space in the cabin - there is no need to have a fare bucket available or Avios availability. If you choose the Avios credit you will get between 108 to 126 Avios per GBP of your fare. If you us,ed an FTV to pay for this now cancelled service then you can have a refund back to the FTV's original booking.

Online forms: manual process which may take many weeks
link to webform to claim a refund (UK) or link to webform to claim a refund (US)

Paid Seating Refund:
link to webform to claim a refund (UK)



02 - If your flight is not cancelled but you no longer wish to travel

Commercial booking: If you are eligible for Buy with Confidence, you can have an FTV valid until 31 August 2022 (this has been extended several times). Rebooking may lead to a fare recalculation but no change fee. Travel must be fully completed by this date.

Redemption booking: Your can do the normal Avios refund, with the redeposit fee capped at GBP 35 per person. Alternatively for the same fee you can rebook to new dates subject to availability. Alternatively you can have an FTV.

BA Holidays booking: You may be get a refund proactively, otherwise you are looking at an FTV for at least the flight component of your trip, maybe for all components.

If all of the flights in your booking are still scheduled and you don't wish to travel then you best wait until a few days before departure in case there is a cancellation. As you can see above, a cancellation gives you better options. You are in scope with Buy with Confidence if you are flying between now and completing travel before 30 April 2022, also if you bought your ticket after 3 March and due to complete all flights before September 2021. The BA web page on this is: https://ba.com/confidence

Bookings made using Lloyds Upgrade Voucher
You should expect to receive:
A full refund of Avios and money paid plus a new voucher issued, which has validity for 6 months (from the date of issue, i.e. when you request the 'refund')

Lloyds Upgrade Voucher Notes
  • Flights can be used within 12 months, so it will be good for travel up until the end 6 months plus 12 months if you book just before the new expiry
  • It's been advised to take the voucher instead of rebooking as it gives me more flexibility.
  • The original expiry date of the voucher was irrelevant because the booking was cancelled.
  • You must book within 6 months of the voucher being issued and the ticket has 12 months validity so you can change flights after, provided the new flights are within the 12 month window.
  • You won't receive any email, only the refund and the miles.


03 - How to find out the status of your voucher and the amount it contains

Use the Qantas website and look back to your original PNR. Step by step guide by corporate-wage-slave


04 - Future Travel Vouchers versus eVouchers

FTVs cannot be used online (and are not really vouchers), whereas eVouchers, issued for simple bookings, can be used online.

BA are now issuing eVouchers directly in simple cases, and also proactively replacing existing FTVs with new eVouchers. These are usable online. Complex cases still get FTVs, which require a phone call to book. In both cases, you need to apply online through the Cancellation Options in MMB, and both will generate an email typically within a few minutes. This is how to tell the difference

1) eVouchers will get an email entitled "Your British Airways eVoucher"
This will then have a line like this and the online ability is mentioned in the email text:
Your eVoucher details
125-1234567890 / GBP48.87 / WAGE-SLAVE /

2) FTVs will get an email entitled "Your British Airways Future Travel Voucher"
The relevant line then shows:
Voucher code(s)
125-1234567890

It doesn't take much, by FT standards, to turn a booking too complicated for the automated eVoucher. POUGs, flight changes, TCP, seat payment, pay payment with Avios, UuA. 48 and 72 hour Hold bookings all stop it. But if you made a simple single or return booking, point to point, on BA.com and didn't change it, then you should get an eVoucher.

If you obtain an FTV, deploy it on a new booking which BA then cancels, then you can get a refund of the cash from the first booking that led to the FTV. Or an Avios refund without redeposit fees if it was a redemption.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by Still
thanks CWS, BA couldn’t move me to QR because of redemption tickets, next available BA flights is 4 days away, am I safer to claim accommodations cost for 4 days than QR same day flights? Even in Maldives
Have a look at the MLE thread for data points on this issue. But in terms of the law, yes you would safe to claim Right to Care, including hotel and meal costs. The reference thread has details of a discussion about keeping costs reasonable, but the worst case scenario is that BA will give you a Ł200 a night subsidy, plus Ł50 approx for food. They may just pay the whole tab.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:07 am
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 6:15 pm
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If I accept a FTV that has a 241, Ł1400 and 200k Avios in it and then use it to book flights utilising the 241, Ł1400 and only 160k Avios what happens to the remaining 40k Avios? Is this tied alone in another FTV or returned to my account?

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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:26 pm
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Hi, quick question. If I Use Avios to make a booking on American Airlines, what is the cancellation policy? Pre COVID they would give you back your miles and keep the taxes. Can you get taxes back now too?
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:41 pm
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Originally Posted by bgallthat1
Hi, quick question. If I Use Avios to make a booking on American Airlines, what is the cancellation policy? Pre COVID they would give you back your miles and keep the taxes. Can you get taxes back now too?
no change from before, so as long as you cancel more than 24 hours before your flight you get everything back minus a Ł35/$55 per person cancellation fee which is devoted from the taxes/fees/charges you paid. If the taxes/fees/charges you paid were less than Ł35/$55 then you just lose the cash you paid, you are not asked to cure the difference.

You do have to call to do voluntary cancellations atm, you can’t do them online.
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Old Feb 26, 2021, 2:24 am
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Originally Posted by tom31
If I accept a FTV that has a 241, Ł1400 and 200k Avios in it and then use it to book flights utilising the 241, Ł1400 and only 160k Avios what happens to the remaining 40k Avios? Is this tied alone in another FTV or returned to my account?
AIUI, because it's an Avios booking you will get a refund of those 40,000 Avios back to your account.
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Old Feb 26, 2021, 3:11 am
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Just thought I'd update the thread with my situation.

As mentioned, AA cancelled my flights and BA refused to re-issue the ticket outside the 12 month validity for a third time (even though the flight was at 14 months). I wrote a letter before action to Waterside pointing out the CoC 3b2 and 261/2004 Article 8. Customer Relations responded basically saying their response stands, so this morning I've gone to MCOL and submitted a claim for the cost of a one-way flight to cover my journey.
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Old Feb 26, 2021, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by Dave_C
As mentioned, AA cancelled my flights and BA refused to re-issue the ticket outside the 12 month validity for a third time (even though the flight was at 14 months). I wrote a letter before action to Waterside pointing out the CoC 3b2 and 261/2004 Article 8. Customer Relations responded basically saying their response stands, so this morning I've gone to MCOL and submitted a claim for the cost of a one-way flight to cover my journey.
Were they the two lines of arguments you used? I think there may be further lines of argument in terms of the Consumer Rights Act and contract law, though I'm not an expert on the latter point. And have you actually bought the replacement one-way flight yet?
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Old Feb 26, 2021, 3:59 am
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Were they the two lines of arguments you used? I think there may be further lines of argument in terms of the Consumer Rights Act and contract law, though I'm not an expert on the latter point. And have you actually bought the replacement one-way flight yet?
In the letter and the filing to MCOL, yes. I've not bought the flights yet. I'm hoping that once their legal team get involved and see the net cost to them is virtually zero, they will come to their senses. I do want to be reasonable here, but there are clear obligations that they're shirking.
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Apologies if this has been covered before, but what is the latest time you can change the date of the outbound flight on a cash booking?
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Old Feb 26, 2021, 6:55 am
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Apologies if this has been covered before, but what is the latest time you can change the date of the outbound flight on a cash booking?
About an hour before departure, but obviously I wouldn't leave it that late in case there are IT or telephony issues. BA have been cancelling flights, generally speaking, two weeks before departure, late cancellations have happened (e.g. South Africa) but it's not the norm.
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HI All,

I wonder if someone can give me some advice.

I have a first class avios booking with ba from London to male in April using the 241 voucher. I spoke with BA and they said flights to Maldives are still going ahead even in Lockdown and it's not certain that my flight will be cancelled.

The issue is if I wait and they cancel the flight I can rebook on the same service if there is any first class seat available but if I don't wait for them to cancel I can only move it to available reward seats which of course there are no first class ones available.

Do people think BA are actually flying to the Maldives in Lockdown? Who is getting on these planes?

Any other advice would be really helpful thank you.
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Old Feb 27, 2021, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by leewilz
HI All,

I wonder if someone can give me some advice.

I have a first class avios booking with ba from London to male in April using the 241 voucher. I spoke with BA and they said flights to Maldives are still going ahead even in Lockdown and it's not certain that my flight will be cancelled.

The issue is if I wait and they cancel the flight I can rebook on the same service if there is any first class seat available but if I don't wait for them to cancel I can only move it to available reward seats which of course there are no first class ones available.

Do people think BA are actually flying to the Maldives in Lockdown? Who is getting on these planes?

Any other advice would be really helpful thank you.
I have the same predicament for BGI. Ticket validity is only 12 months from issue which was June 2020. There are zero dates with 2x F seats to BGI for the rest of the year and cash fares are close to Ł10k return in Q4.

I would imagine MLE flights are pretty busy with connecting passengers from outside the UK unfortunately.
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Old Feb 27, 2021, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by leewilz
Do people think BA are actually flying to the Maldives in Lockdown? Who is getting on these planes?

Any other advice would be really helpful thank you.
Welcome to Flyertalk and welcome to the BA forum leewilz, I hope that we will see more of you.

From what we can make out, though some Brits may be illegally taking these flights, many passengers are transiting from the USA and those parts of Europe where it is legal (if questionable) to travel. As you may have read, BA is now making MLE a year around destination, In a way your best chance would be if BA cancel the First cabin on your service, which then gives you more options, but otherwise you are looking at FTVs or rebooking into another cabin on another date. This was always a risk with making bookings with a pandemic on, I can try and sugar coat that for you if you like, but equally crystal ball gazing during this pandemic has turned into an exercise in futility for all of us, self included. At least you are unlikely to lose out, it's a lost opportunity. We will know more about what is possible on or before 12 April when there is the taskforce report is released.
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Old Feb 27, 2021, 2:52 am
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Thanks very much for the response.

Yes you're definitely right we knew it was a risk when booking. Hopefully it will be cancelled but I've checked the flight for past few weeks and seems to be going ahead!

I guess best thing is to wait and see if its cancelled.
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